That clown thinks he is better than others and "his" needs outrank the needs of the serfs. He needs to be slapped over and over again....
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That clown thinks he is better than others and "his" needs outrank the needs of the serfs. He needs to be slapped over and over again....
I dont understand how Chinese propaganda becomes the hot news story. She's a Chinese professor in London, advocating for China. 1+1=
At least one of those groups serves a purpose...
It’s more to do with backpackers, tourists & students, some of which are Chinese (Han or otherwise), rather than business entities. If they can find something useful to do, if they’re nurses for example, they can stay. We had all up about eight cruise ships here which have just been told to go as well. The picture tells the story.
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R.Caerbannog
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@Tinman6 Considering the damage done by the Chicoms, I get the feeling that a large segment of the country (if not the planet) are gonna share those exact sentiments very shortly. A lot of progressive shenanigans are gonna get quashed and people are gonna be put to task over their actions.
@CQB Honestly, if I was you guys I'd be shoring up my defenses and cutting off any foreign business operations that are linked with the Chicoms. Not to sound paranoid, but if I had a 1.5 billion resource hungry commies I'd be looking at Australia for living space and resources. Like it or not, y'all are on war footing just due to your proximity to the Chicoms. Same for Japan, New Zealand, and everyone else nearby.
Also, if the Chicoms can't have something they have the bad habit of shitting all over the thing they covet. The failed nation of North Korea and PRC missile placements on their island strongholds are a good example of this backward mentality. Seriously, if I were you guys I'd start taking stock of my bullets, beans, and bandages.
@CQB Honestly, if I was you guys I'd be shoring up my defenses and cutting off any foreign business operations that are linked with the Chicoms. Not to sound paranoid, but if I had a 1.5 billion resource hungry commies I'd be looking at Australia for living space and resources. Like it or not, y'all are on war footing just due to your proximity to the Chicoms. Same for Japan, New Zealand, and everyone else nearby.
Also, if the Chicoms can't have something they have the bad habit of shitting all over the thing they covet. The failed nation of North Korea and PRC missile placements on their island strongholds are a good example of this backward mentality. Seriously, if I were you guys I'd start taking stock of my bullets, beans, and bandages.
If the subway closes, How are people supposed to get to work? Just think about healthcare workers.. If the hospital is in Manhattan and they live in Queens? Or Brooklyn? I know nurses in NYC who don’t have cars. Those hospitals have almost no parking. What are people supposed to do? Walk? It is a 4 hour walk from Brooklyn to NYU/Presbyterian... taxi orUber? Should they be forced to live in the hospital? The subway is an essential means of transportation in the city.
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It's also the likely reason that NY has 4x the number of cases and deaths than the #2 state, NJ -- which has 3x the number of cases than the #3 state MI, in all likelihood because of their NY city commuters.
Cuomo and NY are being fucking idiots. They clearly have no handle on this at all. They need to decide how serious/important it is to stop the virus. Hearing Cuomo on the news, tells me he thinks the virus is serious. But his actions don't match his whining. It's pretty clear they need to close public transit for a couple weeks if they want to stop the spread. People that need to commute can find alternative transportation or stay home.
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There are hotels offering to put up medical personnel at free or reduced cost So that they can be close to their hospitals and not expose their families to the virus.
Should the rural communities be forced to die of coronavirus because the big city needed the one or two respirators located in the one podunk emergency department that services unincorporated areas of the states? Should someone have to drive 65mi one way to the urban center when they could have gotten help at Podunk Med Center which was only 35 miles from their house?
See what I did there^^? Folks can Monday morning quarterback all week about this, because we literally don’t have shit else to do right now. It’s not going to accomplish anything.
I’m not being a smartass, but where do you think people go now with critical illness? Do you believe they stay in “podunk” hospitals? Or do you understand that those places transfer critically ill patients to centers with robust critical care capacity? Podunk hospitals do not have access to the same level of diagnostic systems, treatments, providers and expertise that major, mostly urban centers do. Chances are, in almost all of America, if you are on a ventilator in an ICU, You are at a major medical system hospital.
Lets take a look at N.C., which has many great local hospitals. Cape Fear, for instance serves Fayetteville and the surrounding rural areas. If you require long term hospitalization, most likely you are being transferred to Duke or UNC-CH. same goes for almost everywhere east of Greensboro. Does it make sense to take ventilators from hospitals with little experience in the long term management of critically ill patients and transferring them to a place with the in depth organizational knowledge to effectively handle patient care and large volumes? IMO yes...
@Devildoc what do you think?
Lets take a look at N.C., which has many great local hospitals. Cape Fear, for instance serves Fayetteville and the surrounding rural areas. If you require long term hospitalization, most likely you are being transferred to Duke or UNC-CH. same goes for almost everywhere east of Greensboro. Does it make sense to take ventilators from hospitals with little experience in the long term management of critically ill patients and transferring them to a place with the in depth organizational knowledge to effectively handle patient care and large volumes? IMO yes...
@Devildoc what do you think?
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There are these things out there with two wheels, called bicycles.
You do understand that the subway and it operating is likely how this thing has spread in NYC? And if we're being serious about the situation then we do a real pause and shut that shit down for at least a week, maybe two.
Same guy told me the moment the NY Stay-At-Home order went into effect, oh nothing has really changed much. Manhattan is deserted but my neighbordhood is humming.
Supporting seizing equipment from that small hospital is asinine, you just reduced their capacity to to treat the patients in their service area.
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Today's briefing from the White House Task force. Starts at 51:30
There are these things out there with two wheels, called bicycles.
You do understand that the subway and it operating is likely how this thing has spread in NYC? And if we're being serious about the situation then we do a real pause and shut that shit down for at least a week, maybe two.
Same guy told me the moment the NY Stay-At-Home order went into effect, oh nothing has really changed much. Manhattan is deserted but my neighbordhood is humming.
Supporting seizing equipment from that small hospital is asinine, you just reduced their capacity to to treat the patients in their service area.
Try telling that ICU nurse that is 55, with 30 years experience to ride her fucking bike to work. That level of experience is not replaceable. Think about shutting down the freeways... that is what the subway is in NYC.
I’m trying to explain this the right way. Critically ill patients are already transferred to major hospitals. i am not going to expand too much because of HIPPA, but if you think critically ill patients are sitting on vents in regional or community hospitals you are living in a fantasy world. Critically ill patients get escalating care. The way our system is set up, those patients leave small hospitals and get sent to major ones. Whether that is right or wrong is another question. It is the way it is here in the US.
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Huh... sooo this seems to vibe with the information I saw outta the CCP in February about researchers being exposed to bat fluids and blood. (before China scrubbed the article)
Bat Lady (Shi Zhengli) article:
How China’s “Bat Woman” Hunted Down Viruses from SARS to the New Coronavirus
Detailed write up:
The Trail Leading Back to the Wuhan Labs | National Review
Huang Yan Ling ResearchGate articles:
Yanling Huang's research works | Wuhan Institute Of Virology, Wuhan and other places
Add on: Cause the CCP idiots are liable to memory hole things again.
Bat Lady (Shi Zhengli) article:
How China’s “Bat Woman” Hunted Down Viruses from SARS to the New Coronavirus
Detailed write up:
The Trail Leading Back to the Wuhan Labs | National Review
Huang Yan Ling ResearchGate articles:
Yanling Huang's research works | Wuhan Institute Of Virology, Wuhan and other places
Add on: Cause the CCP idiots are liable to memory hole things again.
Wuhan graduate never infected with novel coronavirus: Virology institute
By Zhang Yangfei | chinadaily.com.cn | Updated: 2020-02-16 14:10
Huang Yanling, a graduate of the Wuhan Institute of Virology, a subsidiary of Chinese Academy of Sciences, was not the first person infected with novel coronavirus, nor has she been infected with the virus, the institute said on Sunday.
The institute made the statement in response to information circulated widely online that Huang, a postgraduate student at the institute, was the first patient to contract the novel coronavirus pneumonia in Wuhan, Central China's Hubei province, the outbreak epicenter.
The statement said Huang graduated with a master's degree from the institute in 2015. Since graduation, she has been working and living in other provinces and has never been infected with novel coronavirus and is in good health.
"At this critical moment in the fight against the epidemic, the rumor has greatly interfered with our scientific research work. We reserve the right to take legal action according to law," the statement said.
Wuhan graduate never infected with novel coronavirus: Virology institute - Chinadaily.com.cn
By Zhang Yangfei | chinadaily.com.cn | Updated: 2020-02-16 14:10
Huang Yanling, a graduate of the Wuhan Institute of Virology, a subsidiary of Chinese Academy of Sciences, was not the first person infected with novel coronavirus, nor has she been infected with the virus, the institute said on Sunday.
The institute made the statement in response to information circulated widely online that Huang, a postgraduate student at the institute, was the first patient to contract the novel coronavirus pneumonia in Wuhan, Central China's Hubei province, the outbreak epicenter.
The statement said Huang graduated with a master's degree from the institute in 2015. Since graduation, she has been working and living in other provinces and has never been infected with novel coronavirus and is in good health.
"At this critical moment in the fight against the epidemic, the rumor has greatly interfered with our scientific research work. We reserve the right to take legal action according to law," the statement said.
Wuhan graduate never infected with novel coronavirus: Virology institute - Chinadaily.com.cn
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Obviously we're not going to agree here and I'm quite frustrated with what you think should happen and you think it's ok to remove capabilities from rural hospitals that need those capabilities under normal circumstances.
Yes, patients get transferred upstream. This ain't my first rodeo.
Try telling a 55 yr old icu nurse to ride a bike...well dude, I know several doctors and nurses in my local community that do just that. And the 10 mile commute on their bike is nothing from the Ironman they train for.
I don't like overruling a fellow staff member, but I'll exercise my "admin privilege" in this case.
24 lockdown, SHU program for this thread. Some of you are going to get some counseling, not because of your beliefs or opinions, but your communication skills.
We're better than what I'm seeing in this thread, or at least we should be better.
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As we wait for this thread to re-open, here is a video of a dog playing volleyball...happy Sunday!
Talking to my wife last night, she reminded me that our daughter, who works at a resort in CO, was really sick back around Nov/ Dec. (I think late Nov.). Fever, sore throat, cough, etc...docs tested for strep, flu, pneumonia...everything. They sent her home with an "undetermined flu" or something similar. This "flu" swept through her resort in a week, two max.
Dec., a friend of ours who works at Disney had her family down from NYC. The aunt is an ER nurse. Several of them had an "undetermined" flu though not everyone in the family seemed to be affected despite being in close proximity.
As this shit rages through NYC our friend's aunt is fine, the ER nurse with the undetrmined flu back in Dec.
We will never know when this really started in the US and any numbers we see in the upcoming years will be guesses.
Dec., a friend of ours who works at Disney had her family down from NYC. The aunt is an ER nurse. Several of them had an "undetermined" flu though not everyone in the family seemed to be affected despite being in close proximity.
As this shit rages through NYC our friend's aunt is fine, the ER nurse with the undetrmined flu back in Dec.
We will never know when this really started in the US and any numbers we see in the upcoming years will be guesses.
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We have 40-something staff out with it, and many times over on quarantine as PUI.
Our own in-house data-crunchers predicting our peak April 24-May 4. We are getting fuller with positives, but nowhere near full yet.
Our own in-house data-crunchers predicting our peak April 24-May 4. We are getting fuller with positives, but nowhere near full yet.
Thanks China....
