Covid-19

[ThunderHorse]

A story about how China is likely to attempt to position themselves as a global leader using this situation is Chinese propaganda now?

We've literally got threads on this board about all of the CCP's overseas initiatives in attempts to establish themselves as a world leader.

Or, they could have an article that clearly covers the fact that the Chinese obfuscated the facts and data of the situation and then discuss how they would use the situation to establish hegemony. That take I would have appreciated.

The more I'm reading about his dismissal the more it is appearing to be politically motivated.

One of the boat's senior enlisted advisors said, he was one of the best officers for whom he had ever worked.

Someone else sent out a Twitter that said #bestCO

Something doesn't smell right about the whole thing.

Nothing political about it. Communication sent on NIPR, Communication published in Newspaper, Skipper relieved. I'm not sure how anyone would expect him to retain his command after that.

 

[DA SWO]

I'd imagine if it were someone else's it would have been in his letter.

Maybe.
Capt of the Cole (?) expressed concerns about going into Yeman and was ordered by CentCom (Gen Crist IIRC) to go anyway. Guess who got relieved?

 

[Brill]

The timeline of events on The Rosey:

'Sailors do not need to die': A timeline of coronavirus spread on USS Theodore Roosevelt

The CAPT’s letter seemed a bit hyperbolic.

 

[ThunderHorse]

General Milley on the removal:

 

[Steve1839]

What's the possibility they were cheering because he was an idiot and they were glad to see him go? I don't know, I just don't want to assume. There have been plenty of people in leadership positions who I've been happy to see leave. Just saying.

I do recall a long time ago in a land far away, troops were said to be singing "We don't need no Group Commander" and "Ding-dong, the Colonel's dead" after aforementioned Group commander came to an untimely end...

 

[Marauder06]

You know that Hugh Jashol would have something to say after NYC Mayor Bill DeBlasio said the "National Guard is not the military" during a COVID video interview:

National Guard Members Supporting Corona Fight Thrilled to Learn They’re “Not the Military”

link

New York City Mayor Bill DeBlasio’s "National Guard is not the military" comments unleashed a torrent of outrage from America’s active duty force. But in a surprising twist, National Guardsmen, especially those called up to support the fight against Corona inside New York City, were thrilled by the announcement.

The summary departure of every member of the National Guard from New York City after the NYC mayor's “They’re not the military” remarks didn’t seem to surprise Mayor DeBlaiso. After all, it’s not the first time that uniformed public servants in New York City turned their backs on “Hizzoner.”

 

[0699]

I’ve had my share of toxic leaders, too. We’d just jeer or stand in silence. In a couple of instances, snickering and giggling was heard through formation. No fucks given, no leadership displayed. Then again, I wasn’t a Marine.

That's okay. I don't hold it against you. I love you just the way you are!!

Do you have "the full story?". I certainly don't. Clearly people are interpreting the video a couple different ways. Like all these stories of COs getting canned, we'll likely not get the full story.

I have absolutely no idea, I just don't want to assume facts that aren't in evidence.

 

[0699]

One of the boat's senior enlisted advisors said, he was one of the best officers for whom he had ever worked.

IME, most senior enlisted advisors are FOS. I knew very few SgtMajs and 1stSgts that were GTG. Most of them were worried about lineal lists, kissing the right ass, and their next promotion or duty station.

 

[Devildoc]

IME, most senior enlisted advisors are FOS. I knew very few SgtMajs and 1stSgts that were GTG. Most of them were worried about lineal lists, kissing the right ass, and their next promotion or duty station.

I don't know man, sounds like maybe you were the victim of some perpetually bad leadership. That certainly wasn't my experience.

I know there is going to be lots of sides to the story, but the more that comes out the more It sounds like he's a stand-up guy in a great leader.

 

[0699]

I don't know man, sounds like maybe you were the victim of some perpetually bad leadership. That certainly wasn't my experience.

I know there is going to be lots of sides to the story, but the more that comes out the more It sounds like he's a stand-up guy in a great leader.

You're probably right. I don't have tons of experience.

 

[R.Caerbannog]

Incidentally our government has said for foreigners to go home if they can’t contribute, ie; have skills that can be utilised.

Well I hope they give teeth to that statement, cause the Chicoms who raided y'alls supply system ain't likely to take that suggestion. Commies are roaches, asking a roach to leave your home ain't really gonna do much. Save for emboldening them.

 

[racing_kitty]

If he cared so much about the crew, why go to a port visit in Vietnam when the coronavirus was ongoing? He put his crew in danger.

With a publish date of 4Mar, one can infer from the verbiage in this Stars and Stripes online article, the TR put into port at Danang on 27Feb. Elected leaders here were still telling folks that there was no need to panic at that time. As of today, 3Apr, there are only 233 cases in Vietnam, with nearly 74,000 tested so far. As of 30Mar, there were 75,000 under quarantine, and 55 recovered patients. Hanoi has the most cases currently with 81, and the first case was reported in Long An on 30Jan.

By train, Hanoi is 786km from Da Nang, and Long An commune, Long An province is roughly 795km from Da Nang. Da Nang, itself, is only reporting six cases as of 30Mar.

While Trump had announced a travel ban on China by the time the TR put into port, travel to other countries wasn’t quite as restricted, and people still thought Trump was full of shit about the whole Covid-19 situation, to the point they were still encouraging large gatherings in the States. Without being a fly on the cabin wall, I can’t say with any certainty if senior officers said “Maybe Vietnam has its act together like S. Korea,” or it was another case of “Fuck Trump, Imma do what I want! We’re putting into port!” We’ll never know. A smart man would’ve said “too close to China,” but the numbers I’ve provided now were likely much smaller on 27Feb. That’s not accounting for the chance that Vietnamese stats are as shady as China (possible, but doubtful).

It’s all academic at this point, but from all the reading I’ve done, this seems political to me. I could write even more about that, but my thumbs and the board would thank me for not doing so.

 

[ThunderHorse]

Vietnam has a population of 95M people. Vietnam suspended all air travel with China on 1 FEB. 31 JAN the State Airline had cancelled all travel.

Considering how much travel had occurred between China and Vietnam from 1 NOV thru 31 JAN, it is safe to assume they have an outbreak, I wouldn't say their numbers are shit, their numbers are probably real, the difference is that they may not have reliable capacity.

Although from what I understand, Japan's numbers are trash. They are testing a lot more people now that the Olympics is cancelled.

 

[Blizzard]

To me, the numbers tell some sort of interesting story behind the severity. Not sure what the story is necessarily but maybe it's about the populations being hit or comorbidities, or something, but:

NY has 6x as many total deaths as the next closest state, NJ.

Between NY and NJ, they account for half the total deaths nationwide.

Total deaths and total cases are high in NY, NJ, and Mi but then falls off dramatically elsewhere.

Meanwhile, the #s in WA and CA, where the virus first took hold, appear to be relatively stable.

U.S. has 2.5x the number of cases as Italy, but half the number of total deaths.

U.S. deaths are more in line with those of France, despite having 4x as many reported cases.

 

[RackMaster]

Canada has no domestic capability to produce the materials needed for the N95. But apparently a company in Woodbridge, Ontario is near approval for a next generation mask and production should start soon.

‘Brutal education’: Inside the mad rush to make masks to battle COVID-19

 

[Dame]

Canada has no domestic capability to produce the materials needed for the N95. But apparently a company in Woodbridge, Ontario is near approval for a next generation mask and production should start soon.

‘Brutal education’: Inside the mad rush to make masks to battle COVID-19

WRONG my Canukistani friend.
Fighting Corona with the Superior Crown Royal!

Thinking of starting a new business. I already have plenty of inventory.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Let's all pause for a moment and listen to Steve Martin play the banjo.

 

[Blizzard]

Canada has no domestic capability to produce the materials needed for the N95. But apparently a company in Woodbridge, Ontario is near approval for a next generation mask and production should start soon.

‘Brutal education’: Inside the mad rush to make masks to battle COVID-19

The N96?

You'd think the solution would be an effective reusable mask. If we can put a man on the moon...

 

[Topkick]

You're probably right. I don't have tons of experience.

You are not all wrong, though. There are plenty of careerist "leaders" at that level who continue to check all the right boxes, IME.

 

[Dame]

Very interesting take on the Chinese way of denial.
Ai Weiwei on Coronavirus