Why because you jarheads can spoon in boot camp now?
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Not that I really care for China, but Epoch Times is owned by Falun Gong and manufactures a lot of propaganda
Brill
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They have been spot on regarding their reporting of Trump-Russia, Mueller “investigation“, and FISA garbage. Some would say that has been news whereas the media conglomerates (WaPo, NYT, CNN, and big 3 TV networks) have consistently been wrong on all those stories.
It‘s worth noting Epoch Times calls COVID-19 the CCP virus.
As CCP Virus Rampages Worldwide, Countries Lacking Clean Water Face Challenges
Got my coronavirus money. Just in time too.
Brill
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Unemployment and COVID are now linked. These numbers in the GIF are unbelievable.
R.Caerbannog
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Foreigners in China are becoming persona non grata. This is one of the many signs that China is prepping to do some evil shit around the world. If the CCP is willing to sacrifice the foreign dummies that flock to them, imagine what they have in store for the rest of us.
The world is about to get extremely ugly and we still have turncoats in government, hollyweird, and the mainstream media, who shill for the commies.
The world is about to get extremely ugly and we still have turncoats in government, hollyweird, and the mainstream media, who shill for the commies.
Florida173
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That is effective messaging by their government if they are calling it an overseas epidemic
Brill
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I support the decision to fire the Skipper especially based off this info.
Statement From SECNAV on Relief of CO Aboard USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN 71)
Statement From SECNAV on Relief of CO Aboard USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN 71)
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Agree, though I think the epidemic part belies just how truly expendable foreigners in China will be in the future.
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ThunderHorse
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His boss was literally on the ship! Lol wtf.
Devildoc
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If that is not a signal about the effectiveness of his perceived leadership in command, I don't know what is. Obviously we don't know the whole story, but it looks like his crew loves him and thinks he was acting on their behalf.
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Meaning what?
Parsing through my phone’s history will be a pain, but I found a link somewhere stating that the Pentagon was no longer releasing their numbers for the communist cooties. That came out about 4 days ago, shortly after news got out about a NJ guardsman dying of the virus.
That said, I think it’s safe to assume that one doesn’t get to be skipper of a carrier by being a fucking idiot. However, there are still too many risk-averse leaders in very high positions throughout the military. I’m willing to bet that he’d already tried talking to his boss, boss couldn’t or wouldn’t formulate a plan to get the crew off the boat, and this was the skipper’s way of using the oft-touted-but-covertly-discouraged open door policy. It’s just at that level, there aren’t too many doors to open between you and the top.
I’m not certain that the now-former skipper leaked the memo, but just the mere existence of it would piss off a lot of folks. One, for pissing all over their authority by jumping the chain (another name for the open door policy), and two, by reaffirming that senior military leadership in non-SPECOPS career tracks learn lessons at a glacial pace, because they obviously didn’t learn from the Diamond Princess last month how this shit spreads on a boat.
If you read the rebuttal from SECNAV, he states that he gave the skipper a direct line to the SECNAV’s ear. That’s the open door policy. I’ll bet my last roll of toilet paper that the reason he didn’t hear anything directly was because the skipper was hesitant in —or blocked from— using that direct channel. Too many underlings couldn’t get their shit together, and this memo to the very top was the skipper’s way of using that channel, only he went one open door further. Hence why someone else likely leaked the memo
He was cheered for giving more than a tinker’s damn about his crew. That can be a career ender in today’s military when you go up against someone to whom their subordinates are second to their careers.
That said, I think it’s safe to assume that one doesn’t get to be skipper of a carrier by being a fucking idiot. However, there are still too many risk-averse leaders in very high positions throughout the military. I’m willing to bet that he’d already tried talking to his boss, boss couldn’t or wouldn’t formulate a plan to get the crew off the boat, and this was the skipper’s way of using the oft-touted-but-covertly-discouraged open door policy. It’s just at that level, there aren’t too many doors to open between you and the top.
I’m not certain that the now-former skipper leaked the memo, but just the mere existence of it would piss off a lot of folks. One, for pissing all over their authority by jumping the chain (another name for the open door policy), and two, by reaffirming that senior military leadership in non-SPECOPS career tracks learn lessons at a glacial pace, because they obviously didn’t learn from the Diamond Princess last month how this shit spreads on a boat.
If you read the rebuttal from SECNAV, he states that he gave the skipper a direct line to the SECNAV’s ear. That’s the open door policy. I’ll bet my last roll of toilet paper that the reason he didn’t hear anything directly was because the skipper was hesitant in —or blocked from— using that direct channel. Too many underlings couldn’t get their shit together, and this memo to the very top was the skipper’s way of using that channel, only he went one open door further. Hence why someone else likely leaked the memo
He was cheered for giving more than a tinker’s damn about his crew. That can be a career ender in today’s military when you go up against someone to whom their subordinates are second to their careers.
ThunderHorse
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ASU researchers look for traces of COVID-19 in Tempe wastewater
As we know there are people with GI symptoms. I'm gonna guess that if they're able to detect the virus at a wastewater treatment plant before the sludge gets treated that a WHOLE LOT MORE people are infected than we know. And if that is the case, I'm not sure we should be shutting this bitch down like we have.
He sent that letter on NIPR to over 20 addresses, in the release from the SECNAV it stated that most of those were outside of the Chain of Command. Ship's Captains remain a God on the ship when it comes to their power. As an O-6, if he filed an IG Complaint that thing would have gotten routed rapidly.
Not only did he write a memo that was distributed outside the CoC, the Ships PAO was basically doing a PxP on their Facebook.
We also know that the Pacific Fleet has a lot of issues from the numerous collisions of recent years that just seem to be systemic. I'm not going to immediately say he was right. We'll see what the investigation yields.
As we know there are people with GI symptoms. I'm gonna guess that if they're able to detect the virus at a wastewater treatment plant before the sludge gets treated that a WHOLE LOT MORE people are infected than we know. And if that is the case, I'm not sure we should be shutting this bitch down like we have.
You can be liked by your crew and still be a bad officer. I've seen this more than a few times at the lower level, being liked is not a measure of effectiveness.
He sent that letter on NIPR to over 20 addresses, in the release from the SECNAV it stated that most of those were outside of the Chain of Command. Ship's Captains remain a God on the ship when it comes to their power. As an O-6, if he filed an IG Complaint that thing would have gotten routed rapidly.
Not only did he write a memo that was distributed outside the CoC, the Ships PAO was basically doing a PxP on their Facebook.
We also know that the Pacific Fleet has a lot of issues from the numerous collisions of recent years that just seem to be systemic. I'm not going to immediately say he was right. We'll see what the investigation yields.
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