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Out of curiosity....about who may get the throne?I’m really worried about tonight guys.
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About all of it man. I haven’t hated this season’s storylines, although I totally get why everyone hates it. I agree with everyone that has a gripe with how this one went down. Unless you signed that petition, then I hate you and I hope you get aggressive necrotizing fasciitis on your genitals.
I think they’re going to do something cute/lame with the Iron throne, there are way too many storylines and arcs to tie up in 90 minutes so there are going to be questions,
Etc.
I’d like to keep liking the show and add it to my rotating list of shit I can turn on from season 1 and just plow through mindlessly- but if it ends in a super shitty way I don’t know if that’s gonna be so.
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Is Martin taking part in any of the writing of this (or prior seasons?). I ask because last night I was traveling down a Throne's rabbit-hole and thought the the dialog just seemed....'sharper' and more entertaining in earlier seasons than it does with this season.
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It started to fall apart once the show ran out of source material to work with... Once they got ahead of the books, they've just been winging it.
They've done the big set pieces well but this season in particular, has been full of plot holes and sloppy writing. I reckon with this season, they decided how it would end and tried to work their way backwards... And it really hasn't worked.
I have a guess for who's gonna end up sitting on the throne and if it happens, I'm gonna Tommen myself right out a fucking window.
There are some reddit threads out there explaining some of the behind the scenes stuff with the show runners. Apparently they would just kill people off if they had real-world issues between the actors and the show runners?
I saw a rumor about the show runners getting a Star Wars movie so that’s why they wanted out and have been rushing S08.
Who knows
Game of Thrones' Original Pilot Would Have Killed the Show Before It Began
Game of Thrones' Original Pilot Would Have Killed the Show Before It Began
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Random question....
As seemingly disappointed fans are in this season, does it give incentive for Martin to finish his books and offer the ending he has always envisioned, or will fans be 'Throned Out" and not give a crap anymore?
As seemingly disappointed fans are in this season, does it give incentive for Martin to finish his books and offer the ending he has always envisioned, or will fans be 'Throned Out" and not give a crap anymore?
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Eh, it started to go off the rails before then. Partially because the source material is so thick. They diverged from the books in season 4.
Honestly to do a season to season based show on the books is difficult because the timelines don't line up that well. They're not chapters, they're points of view. So several of the books timelines overlap. It takes a whole lot of care and work to do this differently.
They called the actor that plays Barristan Selmy up to tell him he was gonna die. When he just started to have POV chapters written on him. Sam was a POV character and they didn't really know or care it seems.
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Serious question....do you enjoy the show or do you watch it just to keep up with pop-culture? It just seems in your posts that overall you despise it, yet you keep watching.
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Depends on your POV. I'm not watching the show just to bitch. There's a whole lot of other things to just bitch about in this life.
From A Game of Thrones to A Dance with Dragons, read them. Also read A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms and Fire & Blood. So for the most part I'm culturally invested in this show that introduced me to one of the Great American writers.
So I'm watching because I've previously enjoyed the show. And I'm allowed to be critical of it as a paying customer.
It's possible to like the acting and hate the writing.
If you want to get super mad, and I'm not really mad about this one though, is the portrayal of Euron. He makes Ramsay look like a middle schooler. To really build this character they would have needed to spend a lot of time on the Iron Islands. Which, would have made for some cool sets.
From A Game of Thrones to A Dance with Dragons, read them. Also read A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms and Fire & Blood. So for the most part I'm culturally invested in this show that introduced me to one of the Great American writers.
So I'm watching because I've previously enjoyed the show. And I'm allowed to be critical of it as a paying customer.
It's possible to like the acting and hate the writing.
If you want to get super mad, and I'm not really mad about this one though, is the portrayal of Euron. He makes Ramsay look like a middle schooler. To really build this character they would have needed to spend a lot of time on the Iron Islands. Which, would have made for some cool sets.
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My gut says that however it ends, it will be such that you understand the "game of thrones"/battle for the throne continues perpetually into the future.
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Depends which fans you're talking about. Those who read the books because they liked the HBO series? Probably not. Those who read the books because they're into the low fantasy genre? Probably. Martin's follow on book(s) offer two things: 1) a shot a redemption of the dumpster fire Weiss and Benioff have created and 2) unless they're garbage, they'll still be decent fantasy books, and thus worth reading. Other than being overly verbose at times, he's a pretty good author.
I'll also add that I think Martin's best shot is to take a sharp turn from the direction the HBO series went to create a distinct storyline that doesn't conflate with the TV series after a certain point. There are already several points where the series deviated both in action and intent from where the books were going.
When you've read the books first, the probability that you won't like a great deal of changes and dissimilarities is very high, and vice versa if you watch the TV show first.
Personaly I am trying to not be that guy anymore. I now treat both as completely seperate and unrelated entities. Otherwise you gonna keep hating the gutts of 97% of adaptations because let's be honest, most of them are but a mere shadow or miss the mark entirely, and it's totaly understandable why.
You are dealing with a lore rich fantasy universe, thousands of pages with a lot of world building, character development, arcs and POVs, as source material, and your job is to compress all that into a series of 50mins or several 2 hour flicks, and satisfy not just book readers, but the greater mass of ppl who in all probability haven't read any of that. It is always a big gamble to make a movie or tv show based on such vast stories. So I really appreciate just the mere proporal and effort.
That said, it doesn't mean people shouldn't be allowed to criticize writing when it is or turns bad and lazy. There is this tendency to abandon good writing as happens with most shows after the 1st few seasons or episodes, and sadly GoT follows the same routine. Which is unfortunate because the show started brtilliantly and was consistently good for 2 seasons.
Personaly I am trying to not be that guy anymore. I now treat both as completely seperate and unrelated entities. Otherwise you gonna keep hating the gutts of 97% of adaptations because let's be honest, most of them are but a mere shadow or miss the mark entirely, and it's totaly understandable why.
You are dealing with a lore rich fantasy universe, thousands of pages with a lot of world building, character development, arcs and POVs, as source material, and your job is to compress all that into a series of 50mins or several 2 hour flicks, and satisfy not just book readers, but the greater mass of ppl who in all probability haven't read any of that. It is always a big gamble to make a movie or tv show based on such vast stories. So I really appreciate just the mere proporal and effort.
That said, it doesn't mean people shouldn't be allowed to criticize writing when it is or turns bad and lazy. There is this tendency to abandon good writing as happens with most shows after the 1st few seasons or episodes, and sadly GoT follows the same routine. Which is unfortunate because the show started brtilliantly and was consistently good for 2 seasons.
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My happy ending has Arya killing everyone except for Ghost, Sansa and the dragon...each of the 4 major kill takes 20 min to play out:
1 - Kills Jon as Arya.
2 - Kills Greyworm dressed as Jon ...
3 - Kills Tyrion / Bran / Jaime/ Cersei / everybody red wedding style dressed as Jon in some type of counsel meeting, wins favor back with Danny. Jon and Danny Mount up on the dragon to head north to smoke Sansa.
4 - Jon pushes Danny off, surprise its Arya.....
Pick up Sansa and Ghost and fly away listening to Creedence Clearwater Revival!!!!!!!
ETA VIDEO
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Does Podrick have a big dick? Asking for a friend.
ETA: allegedly, GRRM asked Weiss and Benioff if they knew the ending. They said xxxx would happen and that's why GRMM signed away the rights to the show.
Let's say they are correct and present GRRM's intended ending, that doesn't mean the journey's right.
ETA: allegedly, GRRM asked Weiss and Benioff if they knew the ending. They said xxxx would happen and that's why GRMM signed away the rights to the show.
Let's say they are correct and present GRRM's intended ending, that doesn't mean the journey's right.
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I'm going to force myself to like it even if I hate it. I've wasted too much life force on this series to go home disappointed. So while the rest of you are pissing yourselves over how shitty it was, I'll be happy because I'm starting to drink now.
Brill
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