Israel and Iran

Can someone honestly answer why going to war us a good thing? Break it down like I'm a fucking retard, I know, I know, I already am but part of me voting for Trump was the no war thing.
Well we gotta see if we go to war or not. If this was truly a limited strike with a clarified endstate- I’m still not on board but I’ll take the positives out of the bad deal.
 
Can someone honestly answer why going to war us a good thing? Break it down like I'm a fucking retard, I know, I know, I already am but part of me voting for Trump was the no war thing.
Iran has been at war with us since 1979. They attacked our embassy and held our people hostage. The fund terrorist organizations around the world that threaten our interests and kill our people. They actively attacked, and helped others attack, us in Iraq. They fund some of the worst terrorist organizations in the world: Hamas, Hezbollah, the Huthis. They completely destabilized Lebanon and instilled puppet regimes in Lebanon and Syria. They orchestrated the October 7 attacks. They regularly directly and indirectly attack and threaten our regional partners. including Israel and Saudi Arabia. Their shenanigans with the Straight of Hormuz threaten a large part of the world's oil supply.

Their flavor of Islam, Twelver Shiism, is apocalyptic. They believe the only way to bring the 12th Imam (the Mahdi) out of occultation is armaggedon against the Jews. That's why they hate Israel so much, and why they would absolutely use a nuke on Israel if they thought they could get away with it.

Iran has never been weaker. At very little relative cost to us, they have been neutered. Their proxies are crippled. They have largely used up their arsenal of missiles, drones, and external combat forces. Their skies belong to Israel. And us, apparently, whenever we want them to.

There is never any appeasing zealots. You have to do something that makes sure that they can't threaten you or your interests. This is a step in that direction.
 
Well we gotta see if we go to war or not. If this was truly a limited strike with a clarified endstate- I’m still not on board but I’ll take the positives out of the bad deal.

I think Trump has fully placed the ball in Iran's court. Will they launch a few missiles in "retaliation", or will they have Quds direct a terror attack? One of those is reasonable (in a global-politics sense) and the other will turn this into a regime change operation.
 

Uhhhh

robin williams moments GIF


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Iran has been at war with us since 1979. They attacked our embassy and held our people hostage. The fund terrorist organizations around the world that threaten our interests and kill our people. They actively attacked, and helped others attack, us in Iraq. They fund some of the worst terrorist organizations in the world: Hamas, Hezbollah, the Huthis. They completely destabilized Lebanon and instilled puppet regimes in Lebanon and Syria. They orchestrated the October 7 attacks. They regularly directly and indirectly attack and threaten our regional partners. including Israel and Saudi Arabia. Their shenanigans with the Straight of Hormuz threaten a large part of the world's oil supply.

Their flavor of Islam, Twelver Shiism, is apocalyptic. They believe the only way to bring the 12th Imam (the Mahdi) out of occultation is armaggedon against the Jews. That's why they hate Israel so much, and why they would absolutely use a nuke on Israel if they thought they could get away with it.

Iran has never been weaker. At very little relative cost to us, they have been neutered. Their proxies are crippled. They have largely used up their arsenal of missiles, drones, and external combat forces. Their skies belong to Israel. And us, apparently, whenever we want them to.

There is never any appeasing zealots. You have to do something that makes sure that they can't threaten you or your interests. This is a step in that direction.

Ok, makes sense, though, I will now echo @amlove21
 
Can someone honestly answer why going to war us a good thing? Break it down like I'm a fucking retard, I know, I know, I already am but part of me voting for Trump was the no war thing.
I support Israel. (Crazy when you look at a map)
I support (try at least) our current President.
I missed the memo where the DOD asked my opinion, but I do not believe that this was a good idea.
 
My understanding is the 57 uses speed to penetrate, can it get the same speed from a 130, then it can from a B-2?

FWIW-Multiple outlets tracking 6xB-2 headed towards/Guam or Diego Garcia.
UK is saying we can't strike from DG, so Guam will probably be the launch point.
0300 Tehran time on 25 June is still my prediction.
Things that didn't age well.
LOL.

Glad Trump did this.

I still wonder what all those ChiCom cargo planes brought, or removed.

Watch your six folks, I doubt we go unscathed.
 
Gross. I’ll wait to jerk off today until I see the footage, but it will be shameful.

Eta: I hate that we are involved. But I have such a hard on for combat aviation I just love to see it. I am torn between where I think we should be policy wise, and how much I love to see us skull fuck other people.
 
Iran has crossed the lines so many times.....the latest, being the force behind the Oct 7th attacks. The drone strikes on the US forces located at the Jordan base, the IRGC plot to kill Trump (subject arrested in Houston for the actions in NY....on a side note, the original investigation started in at the Dallas FBI office)

As we all know...that region of the world only respects force....not diplomacy.
 
Iran has crossed the lines so many times.....the latest, being the force behind the Oct 7th attacks. The drone strikes on the US forces located at the Jordan base, the IRGC plot to kill Trump (subject arrested in Houston for the actions in NY....on a side note, the original investigation started in at the Dallas FBI office)

As we all know...that region of the world only respects force....not diplomacy.

Side note, who here thinks besides me that Israel knew Oct 7th was going to happen and let it?
 
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