Israel and Iran

Topkick said:
Serious question, how did you come to the conclusion that Iran was an imminent threat and its necessary to go to war with them?
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I don't think I'm on the record anywhere, ever, saying that I thought Iran was an imminent threat. Did I say that in this thread? If so, I need to do a Rubio and provide some "clarifying comments." ;)
 
Marauder06 said:
I don't think I'm on the record anywhere, ever, saying that I thought Iran was an imminent threat. Did I say that in this thread? If so, I need to do a Rubio and provide some "clarifying comments." ;)
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Okay, cool. I guess I'm just going to sit this one out. I'm honestly not even sure where I stand. It was a serious question, not intended to call you out.
 
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amlove21 said:
Burden of proof has entered the chat.

I have had the most adversarial conversations with a bunch of the biggest influencers you know about this very thing. "Ok, you said the thing, it's on you to now prove the thing. The bigger the thing you said, the more proof you need."

"YOU CANT PROVE IT'S NOT THE CASE AND WHY ARE YOU DEFENDING X PERSON OR Y EVENT?!"

It's tiresome. I don't even bother trying anymore with most of them.
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SUPER tiresome.

I was recently in a days-long enagement with a long time friend of mine who asserted that thousands of American servicemen had been killed and injured in the opening days of the Iran war.

Wow. That's interesting, I wonder if it's true.

When asked for evidence, he posted a USAJobs post advertising for mortuary affairs (or whatever they're called now). OK; a routine job announcement does not support the assertion of thousands of US casualties.

He then gave a screenshot showing that Landstuhl (the hospital in Germany that supported a lot of WIAs during Iraq and Afghanistan) was "closed." Why was it closed? Well, to support the thousands of casualties!

Or, you dumb fuck, it's because Germany is like six hours ahead of us right now, and that part of the hospital is closed because it's the weekend.

But it was all part of a grand conspiracy, and I guess I wasn't smart enough to connect the dots.

Then I noticed that it wasn't my friend posting it, but a friend of his with a similar name, who was tagging him in everything, which was why it was popping up in my feed. So I stopped engaging.

Yeah, tiresome.
 
The Quartermaster said:
I respect you Top, I do. I don't always agree with you I and that's okay. It's the civil discourse between us that we can get along with and learn from each other with that should the standard everywhere else.
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I'm not exactly sure where I stand on this one. There are a lot of people with more inside knowledge than I who are passionately against this war and nearly 75% of Americans disagree with it. I was lied to about Iraq, and Netenyahu and the US have been screaming "clear and present danger " for 30+ years. I'm always for a pro American regime anywhere and wouldn't be mad about that, but I am not ready to support a full scale war in Iran. It doesn't really matter, because my opinion is not going to change a fucking thing. In the end its just discussion and maybe I'll see something I've missed.
 
Like let’s play this out… @Box gonna need you for this one.

Let’s say for argument’s sake Bibi is actually dead. Somehow the “truth” comes out.

Do people even blink? Does the collective world just sort of shrug and go, “Yeah man they lie about everything else why not this? We all knew this was the natural progression of AI.”

We sped right past aliens and elites trafficking kids and covid and all the rest… so what. Is. Happening.
 
Topkick said:
I don't know either way, but Joe Kent may. He wasn't just a random guy on the internet. Also, Marco Rubio all but said it on National TV. I respect your perspective, though.

I do find it odd that all of the sudden, everyone trusts our government. I haven't forgotten that I buried a Platoon Sergeant, who was a great friend, killed in a war based on lies.
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I find it odd that the very same people who said Joe Kent was a Nazi now find him credible because he's going against Trump. Or rather just convenient.


Full article: Extremist Yesterday, Authority Today: Media Whitewashes Joe Kent | HonestReporting

amlove21 said:
Alright nothings real everything is fake and I don’t know anything. I’m over this game.

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Point of order, that piece of shit is a Hamasistani Sympathizer.
 
Topkick said:
Has your opinion changed about Joe Kent?
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If I'm being brutally honest, I had completely forgotten about him being the head of the NCTC. He was in a public office that is not public facing. But he chose to take go to social media and write an essay full of conspiracy theories instead of resigning quietly in three sentences. So...like I said in another post.

He gets credit/respect for serving honorably, for his combat deployments, for being a Gold Star Husband. But that shit right there? That resignation letter is grift.
 
ThunderHorse said:
If I'm being brutally honest, I had completely forgotten about him being the head of the NCTC. He was in a public office that is not public facing. But he chose to take go to social media and write an essay full of conspiracy theories instead of resigning quietly in three sentences. So...like I said in another post.

He gets credit/respect for serving honorably, for his combat deployments, for being a Gold Star Husband. But that shit right there? That resignation letter is grift.
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Thats where we disagree. My opinion of Joe Kent hasn't ever changed and I respect his opinion and guts to say what he thinks, whether I agree or not. Did you think Trump and his cronies weren't going to troll him?
 
Topkick said:
Thats where we disagree. My opinion of Joe Kent hasn't ever changed and I respect his opinion and guts to say what he thinks, whether I agree or not.
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I don't think that took any sort of guts, remember resigning over ideological differences today is just as fashionable as it was from 2016-2020. You get to walk into the open arms of the Democrats who will then use you against Trump any moment they can. Oh and he's well compensated for that too.

3 Sentences, no tweets, disappearing to go be a father? That's guts.

As I said in another post, serving this great nation is not a train station. You need not announce your arrival or departure. If you want to leave, tell HR, we'll turn your phone off, box and ship your things to you. BUT, if you want to serve? Row, row well and live.
 
He didn't fucking walk into the arms of Democrats. Thats very dramatic. You can't stand that he disagrees with you.

So he should just shut up, huh? Okay cool.
 
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