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Political theater. Dems are just pushing falsities ahead of the election. Hakeem Jefferies keeps referring to ICE as "out of control and terrorizing the American people."
National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (and now ICE)
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Political theater. Dems are just pushing falsities ahead of the election. Hakeem Jefferies keeps referring to ICE as "out of control and terrorizing the American people."
"I wonder why everyone is so polarized on literally every issue!"
I think I found the problem.
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Even if it is true it’s not gonna convince those who support ICE to stop supporting them. I believe nothing will in fact do that.
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So, exactly who is being asked to "show their papers" and what exactly are the circumstances?
Again, I hear a lot of hyperbole around this point but I've seen exactly zero evidence of this actually occurring. Every incident I've seen cited was a targeted apprehension or of someone that has directly interfered in a situation. As I said before, if someone has evidence to the contrary, please share.
Now, as to whether an administrative warrant is sufficient or a signed judge's warrant is required, that's a different question. I'm no legal scholar, so I have no idea, but I'm sure courts will be asked to weigh-in soon enough. Each side will bring arguments to their favorite judge and claim validation. There does some to be nuance here in that the cases have already gone through that previous due diligence and agents are executing final deportation orders.
It is slippery slope though. As @Ooh-Rah said earlier, will it be used to further trample on 2A?
Again, I hear a lot of hyperbole around this point but I've seen exactly zero evidence of this actually occurring. Every incident I've seen cited was a targeted apprehension or of someone that has directly interfered in a situation. As I said before, if someone has evidence to the contrary, please share.
Now, as to whether an administrative warrant is sufficient or a signed judge's warrant is required, that's a different question. I'm no legal scholar, so I have no idea, but I'm sure courts will be asked to weigh-in soon enough. Each side will bring arguments to their favorite judge and claim validation. There does some to be nuance here in that the cases have already gone through that previous due diligence and agents are executing final deportation orders.
It is slippery slope though. As @Ooh-Rah said earlier, will it be used to further trample on 2A?
2A has already been trampled on by conservative administrations, don't need to worry about what the left will do. "They" will use any excuse imaginable when the time comes.
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The inverse is also true. Even after being presented with the truth, the false narrative and resistance will continue.
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Are you asking for sources? Racist. Cancelled.
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The fact that there is zero mea culpa's being done here to admit that they were being lied to, gives truth to this sad fact.
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I like how we're being told that it could happen to us, when none of us that are laughing at her death was ever going to be doing the things she had done that led up to her FAFO part.
I also like how we're also being told that our silence is violence and that by not falling in like with them we are in supporting evil.
Um, evil is what people who gaslight do, not the other way around. And they are using said fallacies to do it with.
"How easy is it to make people believe a lie, and how hard it is to undo that work again!"- Mark Twain
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Even when you provide sources to disprove the line and people still believe the lie.
Topkick
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It's required to stay in the flock. Doesn't mean they actually believe it.
They believe it.
They WANT to believe it. They HAVE to believe it. They have to because they have allowed their ideology to become their identity. That's why they're all so vicious, and vacuous, at the same time.
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Insecure people thrive off of external validation. They say and do whatever they think will provide it. I think today, unfortunately, we have a lot of people searching for validation.
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This topic, human trafficking, is the most under-reported and critical aspects to the border patrol and ICE mission. This is a primary reason why illegal immigration is so problematic.
January is human trafficking awareness month. I wasn't aware of this (and I have a strong interest in the topic) until I saw this notated on my recommended movies/shows during a recent Delta flight. Is anyone else talking about it? Maybe it just got lost because of all the other "(fill in the blank____) Awareness/Appreciation Month" nonsense.
The subject of human trafficking gets a fair amount of lip service; see Epstein. But, the subject goes far beyond sex-trafficking and that's the part many people aren't aware of. This is because the mainstream media seems reluctant to report on it.
If you believe human trafficking is a problem and you believe action should be taken, how can you seriously oppose the ICE objective? The media is allowing/aiding the radical left in their attempt to control the narrative by failing to report on this.
January is human trafficking awareness month. I wasn't aware of this (and I have a strong interest in the topic) until I saw this notated on my recommended movies/shows during a recent Delta flight. Is anyone else talking about it? Maybe it just got lost because of all the other "(fill in the blank____) Awareness/Appreciation Month" nonsense.
The subject of human trafficking gets a fair amount of lip service; see Epstein. But, the subject goes far beyond sex-trafficking and that's the part many people aren't aware of. This is because the mainstream media seems reluctant to report on it.
If you believe human trafficking is a problem and you believe action should be taken, how can you seriously oppose the ICE objective? The media is allowing/aiding the radical left in their attempt to control the narrative by failing to report on this.
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Ugh, they will still believe their lies because it's a loyalty to an ideology than to the nation itself. Take away their core beliefs that they were the good guys fighting and resisting evil and they will fall into despair and mentally breakdown. We've already seen what these people will do when they get their temper tantrums, just imagine what they'd now do from spite to take as much of us with them as possible?
They seriously need help, real professional help and help that doesn't coddles or enabler of it either.
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OK...and now for the rest of the story:Seriously?!
This was a raid targeting two Hmong pedophiles, one of whom reportedly resided at that home. Agents were there executing on final deportation orders. The man in the pic, ChongLy Thao, met the description of one of the targets, but refused to ID himself. He was held ~1 hour, then released without charges after his ID was finally confirmed.
No one is randomly going door to door pulling people from their homes.
Stop spreading this absolute nonsense.
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So that's kinda the point, right? MN LEOs aren't working with the Feds to apprehend these criminals. That poor old crusty guy being dragged out of his home for not ID'ing could have had his hour back.
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