National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (and now ICE)

Friday night there was a "spontaneous" protest in our fair burg, and the local PD put that out on social media. I had responded, "gee, I sure hope nothing bad happens to the protesters."

I was eaten alive lol, people accusing me of threatening violence. Multiple people said they were going to report me to the police; I told them I live in the county, so it'd have to be the sheriff's department, which would be nice, because I know most of the deputies and I would love to have them over. That just made them madder. Such unhappy people.
 
Friday night there was a "spontaneous" protest in our fair burg, and the local PD put that out on social media. I had responded, "gee, I sure hope nothing bad happens to the protesters."

I was eaten alive lol, people accusing me of threatening violence. Multiple people said they were going to report me to the police; I told them I live in the county, so it'd have to be the sheriff's department, which would be nice, because I know most of the deputies and I would love to have them over. That just made them madder. Such unhappy people.
I'm in a local group on Facebook. The town voted in some libs. The mayor's husband decided to have people out of town brought in to protest ICE. He's a part of Indivisible, funded by ActBlue which in turn is a Soros funded deal.

So I started to ask hard questions. If his wife was lawfully and legally and with integrity, honestly voted for, then why was there out of towners brought in instead of the locals? Make it make sense. Why would a town now a city of 30,000+ need out of county numbers to stand in for them?

There's some of the other side in this same group. When I asked which group their cut & pasted "Uses of federal force" is stemming or coming from and did they fact check it first, was met with hostility and anger. My ID for opsec is a ghost on Facebook where my name isn't real and the things I post are hard to to prove that I am a bot enough to get by.

My intentions if challenged, are to show them that the groups that they are copying and pasta from or from those that are doing it and got it from an actual group of rage bait of a provocateur's design and that they're being played and preyed on and to use their effing minds with free will away from the collective echo chamber and to use their critical thinking alone as a person and not a hive mind.

(Knocks on wood)
 
I just want to get this shit overwith one way or another at this point. My entire fucking life has been dealing with, hearing about, and not having solid action until now, about illegal immigration. I'm fucking stoked something's being actively and openly done about it.

Clinton rallied on it. Bush rallied on it. Obama rallied on it. Biden rallied on it.

Trump needs to do a state of the union address and trollfuck the left by regurgitating exactly what their past politicians have said, except that now they're pissed because HES the one with the definitive results.

Portland police bureau and the politicians out here lost their shit at the officer who noted that if a driver was failing to follow instructions and gunned it at him, he'd gun right back.

At least Antifa wears uniforms, makes shit easier than it was in AFG if they push things far enough. So much absolute absurdity with regards to understanding the law, legal implications of actions, responsibility within the law and as a citizen and as a non-citizen, etc.

There's a diametric opposition at this point between elements in this country. It used to be some semblance of a Venn diagram. There's no overlap anymore. And while one side thinks the other's absurd, the other thinks we're the reincarnation of hitler while they're the ones that are cool with murder and mutilation of mental deficients.
 
Minnesota ‘ICE Watch’ group’s manual showed how to fight arrests and launch ‘a micro-intifada’

perfect.

Editing to add so I don't multimultimultipost: Maybe it's just me, but why does it always feel like it's exterior influences feeding this shit whenever they cater to the idiots with language like this?

Follow up, Stolen Illegal Immigrant Valor is not the bingo ball I expected to hear called today:

He rode a horse to Portland ICE protests claiming to be Mexican. His family says his story isn’t true
 
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Minnesota ‘ICE Watch’ group’s manual showed how to fight arrests and launch ‘a micro-intifada’

perfect.

Editing to add so I don't multimultimultipost: Maybe it's just me, but why does it always feel like it's exterior influences feeding this shit whenever they cater to the idiots with language like this?

Follow up, Stolen Illegal Immigrant Valor is not the bingo ball I expected to hear called today:

He rode a horse to Portland ICE protests claiming to be Mexican. His family says his story isn’t true
It's organized. Doesn't this follow under RICO ACT anyone?
 
I'm not at war with ICE or law enforcement. I never was when the Left was in power, either. And at this point after so much has become known at how this is an organized seditious group that is actively trying to obstruct and terrorize, I no longer care what ICE does because FA? FO.
 
These liberal, white, women at these things is a byproduct of social media ragebait groups, that have organized into echo chambers of Cluster B type. Add with that a redirect of maternal hardwired instincts, and here we are.
 
I thought my tinnitus was kicking my ass at the start of the video. Wasn’t until the loudspeaker kicked in I realized it was whistles.

I might be disconnected from a bit of the happenings regarding ICE out there, but are people really following them around with whistles and loudspeakers? Like as a full time job?
 
Not really. Any law enforcement can talk to people, but...you can't make them talk to you. Can't demand ID if you don't have probable cause that a crime has been committed, or at the very least, reasonable suspicion.
Immigration enforcement is *slightly* more open. 8 U.S.C. § 1357 is the spot to reference, and I'm not even freddie the feddie.

Snippet for ease of information sharing:

§1357. Powers of immigration officers and employees​

(a) Powers without warrant​

Any officer or employee of the Service authorized under regulations prescribed by the Attorney General shall have power without warrant-​
(1) to interrogate any alien or person believed to be an alien as to his right to be or to remain in the United States;
(2) to arrest any alien who in his presence or view is entering or attempting to enter the United States in violation of any law or regulation made in pursuance of law regulating the admission, exclusion, expulsion, or removal of aliens, or to arrest any alien in the United States, if he has reason to believe that the alien so arrested is in the United States in violation of any such law or regulation and is likely to escape before a warrant can be obtained for his arrest, but the alien arrested shall be taken without unnecessary delay for examination before an officer of the Service having authority to examine aliens as to their right to enter or remain in the United States;​
(3) within a reasonable distance from any external boundary of the United States, to board and search for aliens any vessel within the territorial waters of the United States and any railway car, aircraft, conveyance, or vehicle, and within a distance of twenty-five miles from any such external boundary to have access to private lands, but not dwellings, for the purpose of patrolling the border to prevent the illegal entry of aliens into the United States;​
(4) to make arrests for felonies which have been committed and which are cognizable under any law of the United States regulating the admission, exclusion, expulsion, or removal of aliens, if he has reason to believe that the person so arrested is guilty of such felony and if there is likelihood of the person escaping before a warrant can be obtained for his arrest, but the person arrested shall be taken without unnecessary delay before the nearest available officer empowered to commit persons charged with offenses against the laws of the United States; and​
(5) to make arrests-
(A) for any offense against the United States, if the offense is committed in the officer's or employee's presence, or
(B) for any felony cognizable under the laws of the United States, if the officer or employee has reasonable grounds to believe that the person to be arrested has committed or is committing such a felony, if the officer or employee is performing duties relating to the enforcement of the immigration laws at the time of the arrest and if there is a likelihood of the person escaping before a warrant can be obtained for his arrest.

(key regarding drive baby drive, since TECHNICALLY they had committed multiple infractions for road blockages, misdemeanors for interfering with law enforcement, and once instructed to leave the car by a FLEO and instead dropping it into drive to try to flee were in comission of a felony, nevermind the whole there's a FLEO in front of the vehicle in drive with throttle depressed the driver had made eye contact with before throwing it in drive)

Now, HAVING SAID THAT... does it mean that you can Ze pApErZ everyone you run up on? I'd vote no, not in my country, but I've also literally had Ze PaPeRz done to me in Thailand and Germany because I was speaking english with my friends at a bus stop. I presented DOD ID (which was my in country ID, no passport required for me at that point) and I was on my way... but yeah, I literally got PAPERS from a Polizei duo.

I do understand the use of it and the potentially articulatible in court component as a combination escalation AND deescalation tactic when you're having some random fuckstick run up on you.


I thought my tinnitus was kicking my ass at the start of the video. Wasn’t until the loudspeaker kicked in I realized it was whistles.

I might be disconnected from a bit of the happenings regarding ICE out there, but are people really following them around with whistles and loudspeakers? Like as a full time job?

I don't know if they're being compensated, but there's people who literally don't have anything better to do than interject themselves into situations they're absolutely not involved in. I don't understand how they can afford to do it other than they're living off of various disabilities etc that doesn't require them to be employed day to day.
 
I thought my tinnitus was kicking my ass at the start of the video. Wasn’t until the loudspeaker kicked in I realized it was whistles.

I might be disconnected from a bit of the happenings regarding ICE out there, but are people really following them around with whistles and loudspeakers? Like as a full time job?
Yes. And if you believe Joy Reid, it's a deliberate plan to rile up these white women to sacrifice themselves for the overall goal.

 
So we are all cool with this?

Essentially “show me your papers”.

Given the source, I'd be pretty skeptical of anything that reportedly happened or didn't happen. There's a ton of context missing.

The video picks up as the agent is walking over to the person. The weirdo whistle patrol is clearly already in place and worked up. So, what took place prior to this?

It doesn't "feel" like they randomly approached this guy, but we don't know. I certainly don't trust the account as stated by the poster.
 
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People conflate federal immigration and local LEO a lot. Sometimes purposefully, sometimes not.

They don't have to identify themselves. If they are in a neighborhood, and they're looking for illegals... they can ask you to identify yourself. Multiple reasons there; 1, cause you might be illegal. 2, if you're following them and obstructing them, they'll want to know if you're a violent criminal. And 3, if you're the person at the house who is housing, aiding and abetting illegals... that's also a crime.

The more you know.

(SAWSE- @Ranger Psych already did it)
 
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