National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (and now ICE)

The only people I know who make politics their whole personality are liberals, there were people who came to our wedding that are VERY liberal. We have never spoken about our politics with them, ever, they declined invites to our house on the assumption that we voted for Trump. So, uh, I was called a baby killer as a sophomore in college by a guy who I would have described as my high school best friend.

The only people I know who end friendships of 15 years are liberal. The only place I talk about politics is this board and with my wife, who happens to be conservative.

My actual personality? Bourbon Collector, [slow] runner, and rugby nause.
 
Sometimes I wonder if any of you have ever talked to a real liberal person.

I'm definitely conservative but typically don't have a problem with liberals. I have some liberal views myself, such as with SS and Healthcare. I do have a problem with leftists who know the truth but can't just say the truth because they are afraid of the consequences coming from their own kind. Its weak. This guy is educated, a doctor, and he fucking knows men cannot get pregnant, and a born woman doesn't actually become a man.

WASHINGTON TIMES: Planned Parenthood doctor tells committee that ‘men can have pregnancies, especially trans men’
 
Tonight I’ve received multiple “report post” alerts, along with a message letting me know how poorly I’m doing as a moderator.

I’m one person, and the forum owner entrusted me to keep some order here. That’s what I’m trying to do.

I have a great deal of respect for this community; especially those of you with Green Tags. It’s an honor to be a member here, much less serve in a staff role.

That’s why it’s disappointing to see grown men, officers and enlisted alike, resort to personal attacks, insults and passive-aggressive comments.

Watching former Staff-Admins contributing to this makes it all the more discouraging.

Over politics.

Tearing ourselves apart.

Over politics.

Sleep well, America.
 
Tonight I’ve received multiple “report post” alerts, along with a message letting me know how poorly I’m doing as a moderator.

I’m one person, and the forum owner entrusted me to keep some order here. That’s what I’m trying to do.

I have a great deal of respect for this community; especially those of you with Green Tags. It’s an honor to be a member here, much less serve in a staff role.

That’s why it’s disappointing to see grown men, officers and enlisted alike, resort to personal attacks, insults and passive-aggressive comments.

Watching former Staff-Admins contributing to this makes it all the more discouraging.

Over politics.

Tearing ourselves apart.

Over politics.

Sleep well, America.

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They think the same about the other side.
And there's the actual issue thinking that there's an actual side, a line in the sand deal. But the rub and the kicker? We're all Americans, if your self identity is an ideological one then therein lies the real problem. there should be know lines and we all should be knowing right from wrong.
 
I dunno, why should I openly communicate with persons who have vilified me for calling them out on their temper tantrums?

Does one really think that I am taking kindly to some deviant who sexualized my daughter and nieces back when my facebook was opened to all, just because he didn't like what my message was?

Gee, let me think here...being called a Nazi, and not being a nazi, yet my family were Holocaust survivors and my grandfather was a killer of actual Nazis. Am I supposed to take it and not have feelings for being dehumanized by people using it to attack all because they can't argue a position or they're on a losing one?

But wait, there's moar!

It's swell being called either a racist or a sexist because of gosh darn golly, I called out a person who how they badly acted and not for being their gender or their skin color. Oh yes, I should talk to them with zero hard feelings hm?

They said Brett Kavanaugh was acting emotionally upset and yet was exonerated. They were trying to impugned on his integrity and they knew she was lying and still brought her in anyway in hopes to besmirch. I'd be that upset TOO, and I am VERY upset and not going to forgive any of this.

I am not going to talk to them. My terms are not negotiable. They want me to talk to them, then I want mea culpas. I want them to apologize if not for them if they hadn't, then for their kind who have. And they have to be Americans loyal to the nation and not an ideology as their identity and loyalty.
 
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Y'all are going to keep on this shit until one day the forum is "Bravo Six, going dark."

I'm telling y'all, one day the owner is going to get tired of his Inbox filling up with your bullshit and pull the plug.

"It won't be because of me, it will be..." Nah, son, it will be you. All of you. Some of you are too stupid, too myopic, too butthurt to see it. You do you and pat yourselves on your back because you were right and "the other guy" was the problem. The other guy was the asshole who brought it all down.
 
On a site that elsewhere, there used to be this thing where people with issues with each other had the options of duking it out with each other and there better be conflict resolution or people were getting put in corners or banned.

Not saying this is what we need, but maybe folks should take it to PM and let themselves sort it out. Or give this place a break.
 
That really looks bad/dumb. Which of those is to be determined. Hard to know if those are ICE or USBP guys based on what we're seeing. But I do have a question for anyone who know, do ICE agents when in tactical gear carry bodycams?
reddit link, nope no clicks from me. Not today internet seriousness.

What happened and how?
 
reddit link, nope no clicks from me. Not today internet seriousness.

What happened and how?

There was a scuffle, multiple agents on top of a guy who was clearly not cooperating, then gunshots.

Live: Federal agents shot and killed Minneapolis man; DHS officials say he was armed

DHS is saying he had a firearm and additional magazines.

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ETA:

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/23/politics/fbi-agent-investigated-ice-shooting-resigned

I know this is related to the ICE stuff, but reading through this, it sounds like the FBI agent implanted her ideology on situation. Should have been just classified as an officer involved shooting, not a civil rights investigation, and then you investigate and let the investigation lead you to a conclusion.
 
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There was a scuffle, multiple agents on top of a guy who was clearly not cooperating, then gunshots.

Live: Federal agents shot and killed Minneapolis man; DHS officials say he was armed

DHS is saying he had a firearm and additional magazines.
I think someone with critical thinking needs to reign them in for now and let things cool over before going back into daily operations again. If this keeps up and the shootings get worse no matter how legal they were, someone or someone's will be the the Left's version of another McVeigh type. And we really do not want that.

The Left won't listen to reason no matter how wrong they are no matter what evidence that shows contrary, it's all about fighting imaginary fascists and imaginary nazis to them.
 
Sometimes I wonder if any of you have ever talked to a real liberal person. Not some blue haired they/them homo, but a normal person who is left leaning. Im not the fucking boogeyman, I’m just a guy who has slightly different views of what Makes America Great.

Unlike most of this board apparently I do not make politics my entire personality. Most people who know me, assume I’m conservative. I have a fantastic job, have a single nuclear family going on 15 years, and all my donations are to veterans charities. I’m a 6’2 200lb blue eyed blond haired former SF guy, who most people assume is a LEO. They assume I’m conservative because I talk about politics outside of this forum fucking zero, talk about guns, shooting, exercising, and I’m a veteran. At this point it is more fun to rile up a bunch of boomers and @amlove21 than it is to just ignore everything.


My politics are if anything more libertarian than they are liberal. I have always thought the government had no business in marriage, how people identified or if they wanted to smoke pot Similarly I think that people should be able to own firearms outside of demonstrated criminal propensity for violence. Somehow today that makes me some fucking liberal who wants to Molotov maga, which it isn’t. I say something like “I don’t care how people in NYC vote” because I fucking do NOT, and now I don’t have any principals? Cool. Whatever. I haven’t posted since October, and you know what this place is? A fucking echo chamber.

@amlove21 I’ve been around long enough to know for a fact that your opinions and politics have changed significantly more than mine. That you think it is some kind of moral high ground to stand on because you are so strongly convicted now is comical to me. I have changed my priorities as you have, but to think I am some radical while you and I were basically the same in 2016 is comical. I do respect your excellent rhetorical skills and the fact that you aren’t a passive aggressive retard in your posts. You call it like it is, that is to be respected. But I also know that you openly had very different views in your past. I honestly cannot debate you, you are better at it. Period. I will always lose a rhetorical argument with you. That will never change, but I did like it better when we were on the same side.

The bottom line is not one person here is going to change their minds on anything. You can be shown a memo saying explicitly that members of the federal government will come into your home without a warrant, and be like “that’s cool”. We differ fundamentally, and I remember when being conservative had a lot to do with telling the feds to fuck off.

Now I’m off back to work so I can hopefully pay for another hellfire on the 40% of my income that goes to fund dumb ass shit.
Didn’t read. The next time I trigger you into a 1500 word missive, let me save you some time. Ask yourself, “Does Aaron care what a previously banned, ideologically captured hypocrite with no coherent positions says?”

That answer is no.
 
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