National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (please review page 1)

[Marauder06]

I've seen loads of people over the years saying "The cops/soldiers/xxx would never... ."

Yes, they would. If they wanted to keep their jobs. If the situation was volatile uncertain, complex, and/or ambiguous, or--and this is important--they were conditioned to see YOU as "a threat to democracy" or "literally Hitler" or "deplorable," or a host of other things.

Yes, yes a thousand times yes, they absolutely would.

 

[Topkick]

I've seen loads of people over the years saying "The cops/soldiers/xxx would never... ."

Yes, they would. If they wanted to keep their jobs. If the situation was volatile uncertain, complex, and/or ambiguous, or--and this is important--they were conditioned to see YOU as "a threat to democracy" or "literally Hitler" or "deplorable," or a host of other things.

Yes, yes a thousand times yes, they absolutely would.

When it comes down to putting food on the table, people will do whatever it takes.

 

[Muppet]

Exactly. Protecting their pensions matters more than our rights.

Tell me I'm wrong. Sure, maybe a few LEOs won't be collaborators to the government but many.....

 

[ThunderHorse]

I've seen loads of people over the years saying "The cops/soldiers/xxx would never... ."

Yes, they would. If they wanted to keep their jobs. If the situation was volatile uncertain, complex, and/or ambiguous, or--and this is important--they were conditioned to see YOU as "a threat to democracy" or "literally Hitler" or "deplorable," or a host of other things.

Yes, yes a thousand times yes, they absolutely would.

How many firearms did we confiscate from law abiding citizens during Katrina? 82nd was deployed to New Orleans. I don't think you'd see guys roll out in tanks, but going house to house with Active Duty has already been done. They'll just follow orders, the thing that I wonder about is if shooting actually starts. But then again a Democrat deployed Bradleys on American Civilians once.

 

[Muppet]

Tyrants earning that hate.

 

[Muppet]

More tyrant behavior

 

[Muppet]

This POS.

 

[BlackSmokeRisinG]

Another one of these deals with the exception the detainee is major NFL star Tyrek Hill. Not sure if I'd be flipping out as a cop when a guy rolls his tinted window up after giving me his license, but clearly the officers had the right to have him keep it rolled down during the stop. Doesn't say how fast he was going, but have you driven in Miami? Nothing too out of the ordinary.

Then when they get him cuffed he's acting like he can't squat on the curb...

Seems like a shit show all around.

Bodycam footage shows how chaotic Tyreek Hill detainment escalated

 

[ThunderHorse]

Another one of these deals with the exception the detainee is major NFL star Tyrek Hill. Not sure if I'd be flipping out as a cop when a guy rolls his tinted window up after giving me his license, but clearly the officers had the right to have him keep it rolled down during the stop. Doesn't say how fast he was going, but have you driven in Miami? Nothing too out of the ordinary.

Then when they get him cuffed he's acting like he can't squat on the curb...

Seems like a shit show all around.

Bodycam footage shows how chaotic Tyreek Hill detainment escalated

I honestly don't see anything wrong here. I suppose they could have just ticketed him. But if he was actually going 110MP being arrested for Felony Speeding would be easy. Watched a bunch of the video that's been released and it was clear he was speeding and NOT just 10MPH over.

It's been awhile since I've dealt with any law enforcement for a moving violation, but they generally are very aggressive so I always have my keys on the dash and hands on the wheel.

I think we're at the point where because the Democrats have been so anti-LEO, law enforcement in most places is going to be in a position where they can't enforce the law at all. Also, at no point was Hill being beaten. No striking of any kind occurred.

What I find hilarious is on all the tweets with the video you have all the ACAB types out there. And then on Tyreek's twitter all the responses are telling him to comply or stop beating his wife.

 

[The Quartermaster]

When I typically see someone saying ACAB, my default response is that the person speaking it is retarded. And most likely with a record with an axe to grind that they usually did to themselves.

 

[Blizzard]

Hill was a jackass. Period.

Should/could the cop have de-escalated, sure, but Hill owns that situation.

 

[Box]

Yes...
...but he is a celebrity
...he's Tyreek Hill for god sake
...and if he wasn't a celebrity
WOW
...just, WOW
...those racist Hispanic cops may have done some bad shit
...they may have let that REALLY racist cop - the white cop with tattoos on his hands - go all white-cop-with-tattoos-on-his-hands on that poor oppressed person of color.

Mr Hill was probably just returning home from the soup kitchen where he does volunteer work helping underprivileged undocumented immigrants suffering from climate change caused by Donald Trumps racist and sexist policies designed to drag us into a facist republican state.
Besides, when your car does 0-60 in under 3 seconds, you can't just drive 55 - Sammy Hagar said so.
...there no way he was just irresponsibly racing his McLaren 720 through the neighborhood. In fact, I personally watched him stop so a little old lady could push a shopping cart across the street.

Its a good thing those other privileged celebrity athletes showed up to talk those racist cops down off the ledge - that shit could have escalated even mover viral than it did.
...those shitbag cops are probably just a bunch of MAGA supporters

 

[Blizzard]

The Dolphins need to review this video with all their players at the next team meeting:

 

[ThunderHorse]

I have way more issues with this than I do with the Felonious speeding detention of Tyreek Hill.

Riverside Sheriff investigating incident that led to arrest depicted in viral video

 

[Gunz]

The Dolphins need to review this video with all their players at the next team meeting:

A classic.

 

[Box]

"Now that I'm inside your house, I own your house right now"
- "The Deputy"

...bold move Cotton


I like how they had no issue repeatedly naming the woman who had been accused of "resisting arrest" and contributing to the delinquency of a minor - but just coulnd't seem to identify the 'peace officer' duty executing the responsibilities of his office


Now that I'm inside your home, I own your house...
...indeed

 

[Kraut783]

Yes...
...but he is a celebrity
...he's Tyreek Hill for god sake
...and if he wasn't a celebrity
WOW
...just, WOW
...those racist Hispanic cops may have done some bad shit
...they may have let that REALLY racist cop - the white cop with tattoos on his hands - go all white-cop-with-tattoos-on-his-hands on that poor oppressed person of color.

Mr Hill was probably just returning home from the soup kitchen where he does volunteer work helping underprivileged undocumented immigrants suffering from climate change caused by Donald Trumps racist and sexist policies designed to drag us into a facist republican state.
Besides, when your car does 0-60 in under 3 seconds, you can't just drive 55 - Sammy Hagar said so.
...there no way he was just irresponsibly racing his McLaren 720 through the neighborhood. In fact, I personally watched him stop so a little old lady could push a shopping cart across the street.

Its a good thing those other privileged celebrity athletes showed up to talk those racist cops down off the ledge - that shit could have escalated even mover viral than it did.
...those shitbag cops are probably just a bunch of MAGA supporters

Probably correct....but,

traffic cops are just assholes....and this is coming from a cop

 

[Blizzard]

Minneapolis has a serious problem recruiting and retaining police officers since George Floyd; they're still several hundred officers short of their court mandated staffing levels. MPD has made all kinds of adjustments to their eligibility criteria in an attempt to meet staffing requirements.

As a result, Minneapolis just swore in it's first non-citizen police officer.

Noncitizen joins Minneapolis police force

"According to MPR, Officer Vera is a legal, permanent resident but not a citizen. She came to America at the age of four. MPR said her addition to the police force was possible because of a “recent change in state law.”

Officer Vera reportedly came to Minneapolis from Mexico when she was 4, yet, hasn't found the time or desire to become a U.S. citizen...

I'm opposed to non-citizens being law enforcement officers and believe it's probably not constitutional on the grounds that, in order to carry out their duties, police officers must take an oath of office, which requires them to enforce the law and protect the constitutional rights. A non-citizen cannot take this oath in good faith. If you want to be a police officer, become a citizen.

Also, of note, I see this as a different scenario than a non-citizen joining the U.S. military as a pathway to citizenship with the primary difference being they're not directly enforcing laws of U.S. citizens.

Curious to hear other viewpoints on this topic.

 

[Chopstick]

From what I can see, you have a be a United States citizen inorder to be a police officer in Minnesota. So I am confused since (correct me if I am wrong) Minneapolis is located in Minnesota. Seems to me if this person wants to be a police officer, she should follow the rules and attain US citizenship. Anything less, she is not following state law. If she is ok breaking state law right out of the gate that shows a particular mindset. I look forward to her upcoming corruption case (s).

 

[Muppet]

I'm cracking up.