National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (please review page 1)

The Quartermaster said:
DEI hire?

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So, who's her accomplice? And doing this with three cars rather than one is either stupid or smart. Easy to hide one car joyriding with your girl, but less so three. Like whenever I rent a car, you still get your license scanned on exit.

Don't worry, the Justice department is going after Emergency Services agencies for their exams as racist and their physical fitness tests as sexist. Thus reducing the recruitment standards to beyond low. Wonder if they'll go after the FBI?
 
Muppet said:

Fucking good podcast regarding cops doing what is the right thing, I'm looking at you Uvalde and Parkland.
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I'm in the middle of watching it right now and ten minutes in I was seeing what you were talking about.

The problem with many, civilian or in the police profession is that many think that having a gun and the fact that they have a uniform on means that they're already an authority figure and think that they won't and don't need both the mindset or the training. This badly translates to thinking that it easily compensates for no training or hardly any of it.
 
The Quartermaster said:
I'm in the middle of watching it right now and ten minutes in I was seeing what you were talking about.

The problem with many, civilian or in the police profession is that many think that having a gun and the fact that they have a uniform on means that they're already an authority figure and think that they won't and don't need both the mindset or the training. This badly translates to thinking that it easily compensates for no training or hardly any of it.
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Problem is….too broad of a spectrum across the US. Many departments handle violent calls with the warrior mindset everyday…you just don’t hear about it, because it’s not news. You will hear of our failures though.
 
Kraut783 said:
Problem is….too broad of a spectrum across the US. Many departments handle violent calls with the warrior mindset everyday…you just don’t hear about it, because it’s not news. You will hear of our failures though.
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It wasn't a dig, but where I am getting insight to make an informed opinion on are from several different persons and their personal experiences. A deputy SGT from CA. Another deputy also from CA. A sheriff from IA, A city department SGT from W VA. A state trooper that was a former town officer from VA. A Capitol officer in DC. And one tribal officer that was a former town department officer. A town officer from NJ. One FBI agent embarrassed by his hisd coworkers and one BP agent who surprisingly had zero issues.

I mean I get what you are saying but through these other persons I have learned the reason behind when they mention with disdain an "esteemed colleague".

That wasn't a warrior mindset in Texas and in Florida from esteemed colleagues. I have trained with officers at places like Gunsite and Thunder Ranch, with the actual mindsets and their departments/agencies/county's had it too and paid for everything from ammo to traveling costs. But this wasn't Parkland or Uvalde. makes me wonder just how many more are out there though.

You ever see mil tower guards being told weapons free and they hid instead? They wore a uniform as well, the mil kind, and after talking to them both they had a false sense of mil authority when it comes to doing things that a whole airbase has entrusted them to do. And they were appealing to themselves.

My message was not to take your mil or police training as satisfactory or show yourself as an expert when they are indeed confusing enthusiasm for the job an actual capability. I see it all too well with too many civilians and veterans that are basically born again civilians.

I personally know two submariners and one National Guardsman from the Army that don't want to train because they are afraid of finding out the truth about themselves so they get enough gun to compensate for it.

I have seen a retired sheriff online from facebook who acts like he's a warrior, and was talking out of his ass about why lights on cops or civilian guns are bad. Weeks before I had watched a police shooting video where there was a run an gun gunfight and a cop was about to fire, decided to light up and backed off because whom he thought it was was one of his guys in blue, and the other guy was firing at someone that they were after. I mean seriously? Screw PID enhancements?? Really??? That's a warrior mindset to be a mind concluded troglodyte?????

Again, not a dig but these folk do exist and it does need to be addressed.
 
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Oh, absolutely needs to be addressed...and from what I have seen in the Dallas area, it is always being addressed and built upon by departments...better tactical and shooting training is the thing now for awhile. You see it in Texas with two ISIS guys with AK's put down by ONE uniform officer working a part time gig at a public event. Or the ONE Allen PD (Tx) officer taking out a mass shooter at the Allen malls.

We do take it seriously....but, human nature sucks and we will continue to try and fix it, but it's always going to be a moving target.

"Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back."
 
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