Raid on President Trump's Home

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Apparently there is going to be a major announcement from the DOJ at 1430 today.
Wouldn't be surprised if it's just the announcement of the warrant. Trump was posting yesterday that he was directing his lawyers to support an immediate release of the documents.

Trump said in a social media post late Thursday that he supported the “immediate release” of search warrant documents.

His statement, if officially echoed by his lawyers, is likely to lead a magistrate judge to unseal the warrant and some related documents.

The Justice Department’s request came after days of pressure by Republican lawmakers and other allies of Trump on the department to explain why it authorized what is believed to be the first-ever search of a former president’s residence in connection with a criminal investigation.

The department is seeking to unseal only the warrant and an inventory of items seized by the FBI during the search of Trump’s home at the Mar-a-Lago club in Palm Beach.

But the department is not asking the judge to unseal the affidavit of probable cause, which would detail how authorities believe a crime was likely committed and why there would be evidence of that crime in the location targeted in the search.
 

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Fair point:
Then people pointed out "well it's in possession of the national archives at the Obama Presidential Library".

I would like to point out that's not the case. The Obama presidential library just began construction in August of last year, with groundbreaking in September 21. The wiki says that the documents are in a facility that is in line with the requirements under NARA.

Supposedly, in June the FBI spoke to Trump about changing the locks/doors to the document storage area at Mar a Lago, apparently that change didn't get done. So we're gonna raid the place? Idiots. The lot of them.
 

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"Donald Trump, the primary political foe of the current president, has nuclear documents of a highly classified nature. While we instructed him to place an additional lock on the door months ago, as part of the investigation he was cooperating with, we recently felt this was unacceptable. So, under the direction of Merrick Garland, (who may have a personal vendetta against Mr. Trump, stemming from his Supreme Court nomination and subsequent passing-over), 30 FBI agents conducted a raid and search of Mr. Trump's house; during the search, the teams denied Mr. Trump's legal team access and were made to wait outside. The contents of the sealed warrant haven't been released/unsealed, but we have a very good source in the Trump camp."

This is the DOJ/FBIs position.

That's it. That's the whole post.
 

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Fair point:
Then people pointed out "well it's in possession of the national archives at the Obama Presidential Library".

I would like to point out that's not the case. The Obama presidential library just began construction in August of last year, with groundbreaking in September 21. The wiki says that the documents are in a facility that is in line with the requirements under NARA.

Supposedly, in June the FBI spoke to Trump about changing the locks/doors to the document storage area at Mar a Lago, apparently that change didn't get done. So we're gonna raid the place? Idiots. The lot of them.
This is Trump just saying shit

 

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The economy sucks, the country is on the brink of a recession, Biden is about as effective and inspiring as a bag of coleslaw…and the country is focused on an ex-president and some very ambiguous legal circumstances based on various interpretations which could tie up courts for years to come…none of which will result in Trump being hauled off to jail.

Not a fucking iota, not a fucking molecule of any of this is pertinent to the state of the Union at this moment in time.
 
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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say, " This tends to happen, when elections are stolen by kid sniffers and their puppet masters." .

At least the other banana republics have a surplus of "thic" thin waisted lasses. Le sigh...:rolleyes:.
 
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Just for shits and gigs... let's say that 45 did take highly classified documents relating to nuclear weapons and signals intelligence — two of the most sensitive areas in the entire U.S. government to an unsecured location. Would y'all still defend him? 🤨
 

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Just for shits and gigs... let's say that 45 did take highly classified documents relating to nuclear weapons and signals intelligence — two of the most sensitive areas in the entire U.S. government to an unsecured location. Would y'all still defend him? 🤨
If a law was legitimately broken, then he should be held accountable.

On that same note, it should be a level field across the board. Just because your party is in power, doesn’t mean you’re exempt from prosecution, or even from being investigated. (Hunter and Clinton)
 

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From everything up to date, this is because locks weren't changed fast enough. The FBI raided a former Presidents home over locks. Instead of the body responsible for security of said documents, making an appointment with said President and changing the damn locks. If no one sees this as the witch hunt it is and the long term ramifications; put some of your biased hatred for Trump away. This is Banana Republic petty bullshit, to keep a man from running again. If the tides were turned, all Hell would have broken loose and America would be burning right now.

Oh wait... When the elections happen and the Republicans are in power, I hope all the Democrat former President's and the rest of the ilk (looking at you Hillary), are up to date on current lock standards.
 

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Based on that Warrant the FBI violated the President's 4th Amendment rights and that judge should be disbarred. No probable cause in that warrant. It's also wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy toooooooooo brooooooaaaaaadddddd.

Effectively that idiot Judge gave the FBI license to seize 100% of all his presidential documents.
 

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Just for shits and gigs... let's say that 45 did take highly classified documents relating to nuclear weapons and signals intelligence — two of the most sensitive areas in the entire U.S. government to an unsecured location. Would y'all still defend him? 🤨

It'd clearly be a fake news political witch hunt, so of course there will be defenders.

Everybody keeps mentioning "he was raided over a lock!" but conveniently leaving out there was a grand jury subpoena for these documents? That seems like the bigger part of the story here.

That being said, nothing has been confirmed as to whether the TS/SCI stuff was actually nuke info or not. That's about the only part of this I think would legitimize the actions taken.

If it's shown he had info AND was going to do something with it, then smash him; otherwise, I think it's a bad move to basically "find a crime" a former president.
 
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Just for shits and gigs... let's say that 45 did take highly classified documents relating to nuclear weapons and signals intelligence — two of the most sensitive areas in the entire U.S. government to an unsecured location. Would y'all still defend him? 🤨
We don’t have to, he will be pardon. That’s why this is a waste of time. Same thing with Bidens connection to China.
 
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