Silly shit in a gun shop

About 6 months ago, I walk into Tennessee Gun Country on Ft Campbell Blvd in Clarksville, to hang out and chat with Dave and the boys. This dude comes in with an old ass SKS with a Tapco stock, and chinese (not even Simmons) optic. He starts to ask if Dave would be interested in buying this veteran combat weapon because it shoots less than 1 inch at.... wait for it... 1800 yards, and he can make headshots from there. (Honest no BS, that is what he said.)

The store gets real quiet, and the dude just keeps digging. After about a five minute rant, we all stand there waiting for Dave's reply. Dave looks up with the straightest face and says, "Sir, I have a couple problems with that rifle; 1) I dont think I could offer you a fair price for a rifle like that. That is the most accurate weapon I have ever seen, and 2)I dont know enough about long range guns like that, so I am sorry I cannot buy it from you.

There are literally about 8-10 dudes in there. Deputies, SRT, SF vets, retired SF COL, et al... all of us literally ducking behind racks and turning our backs to keep from busting out laughing..
The the guys says, "I understand, that sounds about right. I appreciate your time." And walks out.

He's not gone 5 feet when EVERYONE comes unglued..

Shitheads posers are like blisters...Sometimes it's necessary to bust 'em, sometimes it's best to let them bust themselves.
 
My "college job" involved working at one of the biggest gun stores on the west coast (B&B Sales aka Bumblebee Wholesale). They are semi-famous for providing the ARs to the LAPD guys during the North Hollywood shootout. I was working there when this article hit:

http://articles.latimes.com/1994-05-06/news/mn-54538_1_gun-shop

Anyway, because it was in LA, we'd get a ton of actors, musicians, porn stars, etc. Day one working there, who walks in but Steven Seagal. This was 1990, so he was a star at the time. Of course, I'd been given strict instruction about not letting folks behind the counter, etc. So he pops in, walks up to the space where you can come behind the counter and proceeds to let himself in. I asked him to hold up a minute and got the "Do you know who I AM?!?" treatment. Oh boy...

During my time there I helped Charlie Sheen, Eddie Van Halen, Clint Eastwood, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, James Woods, John Milius, Dwight Yoakum (who would tell us how Sharon Stone was in the sack!), Martin Lawrence, MC Hammer, Tupac (asshole), and more porn stars than I can count. It was quite an experience. You can only imagine some of the stories I heard from customers. One great story was when I was watching the door (checking receipts, asking about incoming weapons) when these two buff, tattooed, ex-con-looking mofos pop in. "Are you carrying a weapon, sir?" Why yes, we are. Oh shit! Turns out they were two undercover LA Sheriffs deputies working gangs. One of them is now a friend of mine for life...
 
HOLLiS said:
My daughter when she was 9, figured it out. She would get home from riding the bus feeling very frustrated and complain that the boys on the bus thought they knew all about firearms and really did not know much at all.
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Your daughter is the schnizzle. I pity the poor boy who tries to date her.

Trip_Wire said:
Federal Way Discount Guns, 33120 Pacific Highway S
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Yup - drive by it all the time.

LL
 
I guess I've really been fortunate to have not stumbled across the "Black Ops SEAL Sniper" type. The customer service at the two shops I frequent can be poor, but that's because those folks aren't into people like I am. Also, when I go in I've done my research so I've narrowed down my choices to 1-3 options and it is just a matter of seeing what I like. I go in, I don't BS the guys, and I think the longest I've spent in one shop was 15 minutes.

And their customers never seem to be anything but clueless. I've heard several "I need a man stopper like a .45" conversations and then they turn around with "but I'll take the .380 for my wife" and then promptly buy the cheapest piece of crap in the store.

I did see an internet know-it-all trying to impress his girl with his massive brain and knowledge on a Sig one day. He decided to try and show up the salesman who took the high road and let Mr. Smarty Pants spew his bullshit so he could take the guy for the price of a new Sig. Tiny Penis left happy and the sales guy pocketed his commission. I guess everyone won that day.

My wife is going to flip when she figures out I'm spending more time in a gun shop on my next trip home.
 
I had two gun shops I went into, one owner told me with pride how he sold ammo to gangbangers for $5 a round. He didn't get any of my money and Ive never stepped inside since.
Another one I purchased a rifle from then later asked how much they charged for a transfer told me they don't do that, if you want a gun we'll order it for you.
I left and got the transfer through another place, who afterwards got money for another 3 rifles.


Ranger Psych said:
Try working in a surplus shop. You think you have keyboard commandos come into a gun shop..
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Ive meet a few people who work in surplus stores who were assholes too.
I had one guy tell me he was a former Marine, then when I asked him a question about a NSN on a garment he said he didn't know what that was... Then again he was a Marine :D
 
Up where I live we have two stores. One supplies the Sheriffs Department the other supplies the local PD. There are two large prisons one federal one state. Almost no military talk at all. our Sheriff encourages CCW and interviews applicants with a positive attitude. The talk is always Law Enforcement and the other day an officer had to shoot a dog. He chose his mini 14 and was amazed at how many shots it took to kill the dog. I shot a renewal course with correction officers and I will say they could use a lot more practice. My wife out shot every one of them but I have to admit I have trouble beating her.
Bill
 
HOLLiS said:
Cops are more like Roving Secretaries rather than pistoleros. Depending on department (money) they may not get much range time in a year.
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I meet the head of the NYPD range once.
He told me that the average cop was a disaster when it came to firearms proficiency.
Two things that stuck out for me, (the qualification is annual IIRC) one cop had a weapon so rusted it wouldn't function, another went to shoot and realised there wasn't a round loaded in the chamber, that is because they cleared their weapon 12 mths before at the range.
Patrolling with no round chambered for 12 mths...

Ive said it before, I'll say it again, I don't trust cops with firearms.

I know cops on this board, who Ive seen shoot that are far superior to me, but they sadly are the exception to the rule.
 
pardus said:
Two things that stuck out for me, (the qualification is annual IIRC) one cop had a weapon so rusted it wouldn't function, another went to shoot and realised there wasn't a round loaded in the chamber, that is because they cleared their weapon 12 mths before at the range.
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Are these cops or airmen? :D
 
Police shooting down here isn't so good either I hear. Heard some shockers about the DPS' proficiency too.

One guy on my intake was an ex cop, he was saying he used to deliberately throw his qual shoot so he got a bit of extra ammo to try some new things.
 
pardus said:
I meet the head of the NYPD range once.
He told me that the average cop was a disaster when it came to firearms proficiency.
Two things that stuck out for me, (the qualification is annual IIRC) one cop had a weapon so rusted it wouldn't function, another went to shoot and realised there wasn't a round loaded in the chamber, that is because they cleared their weapon 12 mths before at the range.
Patrolling with no round chambered for 12 mths...

Ive said it before, I'll say it again, I don't trust cops with firearms.

I know cops on this board, who Ive seen shoot that are far superior to me, but they sadly are the exception to the rule.
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My old Reserve unit was right outside of NYC. We used to have quite a few NYPD, Local, State and Federal LEOs in our unit. Even the ones in our Plt... some of the worst pistol shots I have ever seen. That being said, we had a Police Officer from Danbury CT. He was a sniper on the Danbury force and was without a doubt one of the best pistol shots I have ever seen.
 
Ok, I have two stories... one about LEO snipers and one about a Surplus Store owner.

Surplus first. When living in northern CT there was only one real surplus store around. Had a wide verity of gear and even sold ribbons and medals for the Marines. (A grunt reserve unit was about 15 minutes away). So I walk in one day with a friend and through the door into the back room I see a bolt gun on a bipod. (This is in the mid-90's back when the Marine Corps Sniper Community still frowned on bipods). The owner sees us looking and so I ask him about it. He start talking about how its an exact copy (Used the word "exact" at least 10 times) of the sniper rifle used by the Marine Corps. Now, I am just Lance Criminal PIG at this point in a Scout Sniper Plt so what do I know? Well, I start asking some general questions... so its a Rem 700? Nope, a Winchester 70. Oh. Scope is Untertal? Nope. A Leopold. Why does it have a bipod? All sniper rifles have a bipod...... Finaly I turn to him and say... "In my unit our sniper rifles are different" Oh, and what unit are you with? 2nd Battalion 25ht Marines, STA Platoon, you know. The Scout Sniper Plt. His face turns all red and he muttered something about keeping doors closed and he walked off. His wife took care of us the rest of the time we were there.

The LEO Snipers... now this is NOT bashing on LEO snipers. There are many that are outstanding! My sons Godfather is a LEO Sniper.... he is ver good. Almost shoots as well as me! :) Anyway day before we graduate from Scout Sniper Basic School we are down at Hathcock range zeroing our rifles. 100 yards shooting at the 1 inch by 1 inch pasties. We had about 7 or 8 local NC LEO snipers shooting as well. They were all shooting at head shot pictures. Looked like they were using shotguns. They were all so proud that all the rounds hit somewhere in the "head" area. How the hell with glass can you shoot so badly?
 
SgtUSMC8541 said:
How the hell with glass can you shoot so badly?
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Simple.

1. Their original zero was for shit. Standards of excellence ? Probably not.

2. Poor body mechanics and breathing control. Another poor example of prior training through their dept.

3. Poor platform weapon with crappy ammo.

4. No clue to how to dope a scope, or any understanding of "minute of angle" out to 100 meters.

5. Shouldn't have been a sniper in their dept anyway. :rolleyes:

Seriously, what's the farthest a Police sniper has ever taken a shot ?? 35 meters ? 75 meters ? Even cross building shooting from a rooftop ??
 

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