The Afghanistan and Pakistan Thread

I'm unsure if it's previously discussed on this board, but for a long time I've felt India would be a great strategic partner for Afghanistan considering how much of a shit show Pakistan has been. Large Army that can help train up the Afghans and also provide tactical assistance.
 
No way to control a country with that kind of landscape...only the major cities. You want order, bring back the warlords.

Hell, with so many states starting to legalize marijuana, let the warlords grow it for the US :ROFLMAO:

(from my pics, 2002)

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ThunderHorse said:
I'm unsure if it's previously discussed on this board, but for a long time I've felt India would be a great strategic partner for Afghanistan considering how much of a shit show Pakistan has been. Large Army that can help train up the Afghans and also provide tactical assistance.
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I'm all for something different.....besides India is the reason we have:
IPAs
Curry
Priyanka Chopra
Gurkhas

8-):D
 
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SpongeBob*24 said:
I'm all for something different.....besides India is the reason we have:
IPAs
Curry
Priyanka Chopra
Gurkhas

8-):D
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Quite frankly I’d rather see India and it’s neighbors step up and deal with Afghanistan at this point while we rebuild our presence in Europe. At least from there we can be anywhere in Eurasia withinin hours and we don’t have to deal with around the clock harassment attacks ie rockets and mortars and oh yea IEDs everyfuckingwhere.

If China wants a piece of that pie...HOORAY! The Russians went for it in the 80s and had their fun while watching their Hind D choppers get knocked out of the sky by .303 cal WWII era rifles. Then we definitely took a crack at it and fought the enemy while politics held one arm behind our backs. So, if someone else thinks that they have the sand, great!

Like @Kraut783 said and I agree, this type of countries terrain presents a major challenge to establish order in. We know we have the firepower but we’ll never go ‘there’. At the end of the day it’s not a leap of logic that their own people may begin to reestablish warlord territories again and some semblance of governing across that ahem...shit hole country.

So, bye bye Asscrackistan and hello Europe. We’ll train, train and train some more, some salty warriors will help, some will re-up and eventually we’ll be ready for the next rodeo.

A whole new generation of our military will be tested...And the beat goes on.
 
Just throwing this out there. In two months PK will start sowing cotton for the upcoming 2019 season. Also saw a blurb that this years rise in cotton production in Pk was due to 625 million dollars in farm subsidies for seed, fertilizers, insecticides, and electricity for water pumps. Looks like Pakistan is getting a bunch of aid from to build up it's agricultural industry. Ag support coming from us (USDA/USAID/Any other dept) really needs to be cut from Pakistan.

Link: ForeignAssistance.gov

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Add on: I think it might be beneficial to also point out that Pakistan exports a lot of agricultural resources to the PRC. Maybe I'm being provincial, but I think it's pretty stupid to give our enemies the means to profit off our goodwill.
 
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R.Caerbannog said:
Just throwing this out there. In two months PK will start sowing cotton for the upcoming 2019 season. Also saw a blurb that this years rise in cotton production in Pk was due to 625 million dollars in farm subsidies for seed, fertilizers, insecticides, and electricity for water pumps. Looks like Pakistan is getting a bunch of aid from to build up it's agricultural industry. Ag support coming from us (USDA/USAID/Any other dept) really needs to be cut from Pakistan.

Link: ForeignAssistance.gov

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Add on: I think it might be beneficial to also point out that Pakistan exports a lot of agricultural resources to the PRC. Maybe I'm being provincial, but I think it's pretty stupid to give our enemies the means to profit off our goodwill.
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With President Trumps isolalationist leanings I would not be surprised if this agricultural support begins to evaporate.

There is a very complex chess game happening.
 
MikeDelta said:
With President Trumps isolalationist leanings I would not be surprised if this agricultural support begins to evaporate.

There is a very complex chess game happening.
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I hope so. It would be nice to see GM (genetically modified) seed and foreign insecticides not make it to pk this year (or at least be prohibitively expensive and non subsidized). The blow to PK's economy and the PRC's food security would be a nice win for us and allied countries that export the same stuff.
 
“at least be prohibitively expensive and non subsidized.”

This seems the most likely scenario. President Trump can hold a grudge, but not if it means leaving a nickel on the table. What a beautiful piece of poetic justice it would be to recoup our financial war expenses over time by making the PKs buy our ag support.

We’ll never get our fallen back; however, it would be nice to give PK a swift kick in the nuts on our way out.
 
SpitfireV said:
How is India to take a role in Afghanistan when Pakistan is literally in the way and why would they want to?
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To fight expansionism in short.

In 2017 India was going to send about 5000 troops to Asscrackistan, but NATO forces towed the line instead. India and Pakistan have a long history of conflict and Afghanistan could become the breeding ground for combatants going to Pakistan versus how it’s been with Pakistan combatants coming into Afghanistan.

It’s like a game of whack a mole.
 
Ranger Psych said:
You state IPA's like they are worth the water wasted to make them.
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YOU RITE!!! :ROFLMAO:

For the record though....Mathematically no beer is worth the water wasted to make it!!!!

From the cultivation of the grains and hops grown for beer to the waste involved in filtering to the manufacturing of the bottle itself, one of the most recent studies available on the subject estimates that it takes about 300 liters of water to make one liter of beer. Another study, from WWF/SABMiller, found that it required anywhere from 60 to 180 liters of water to create one liter of beer. Either way, that’s a monster footprint.
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Afghanistan is on that 30 to 35 North belt. You can grow weed on a person if they sit still long enuff. I'm thinking we need to move north to that HOP belt near 48 degrees [Kazakhstan is home to the Fertile Stepps and is part of the Ancient Silk Road]....

:-oO_o
 

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