The Afghanistan and Pakistan Thread

[Florida173]

When I was an uninformed private in the 82nd, I loved Fox.

Now that I know a thing or two about the world, I realize that all they do is parrot right wing speculation and spin stories to the opposite side of the other guys.

It was painfully obvious how the majority of the network took the Republican Party line and spoke out against 'Trump- instead of just reporting.

Fair and balanced... my ass.

More like, "Equally uniformed, yet Republican friendly."

I watch it on mute occasionally. No other network has that draw

 

[AWP]

I read Fox, CNN, sometimes MSNBC, Fark, and whatever else pops into my head at that moment. Fox and CNN will report the same story from different angles and are easy enough to cross check via The Google. Now you can start breaking out their respective bias regarding the story, see a few items on one site that isn't on the other, and piece together your own opinion or keep researching....

....and no one should have to become a junior intel analyst just to stay informed about the world.

Vermin.

 

[Diamondback 2/2]

I like referencing what these clowns are saying with how they are saying it. Like basically saying nothing has really happened new, but saying it such a way that it's instigating an emotional reaction. When you start watching news like that, shit gets pretty damn entertaining.

 

[Etype]

....and no one should have to become a junior intel analyst just to stay informed about the world.

Nailed it.

 

[AWP]

Surprise, surprise, surprise.... I'm sure the TB's rejection of the peace process had nothing to do with this discussion...

US moving to expand strikes in Afghanistan against Taliban, official says | Fox News

The official said a final decision has not been made. But there is a broad desire across the Obama administration to give the military greater ability to help the Afghans fight and win the war. The U.S. is likely to expand the authority of U.S. commanders to strike the Taliban and do whatever else is necessary with the forces they have to support the Afghan operations.

The discussions, which are in their final stages, come as the Afghans struggle with a resurgent Taliban, particularly in the south.

The only time this war isn't funny is when we lose someone. Otherwise this has become one of the grimmest jokes in recent history. Pure garbage.

 

[Brill]

It has nothing to do with peace but rather a legacy, a library, and a lady.

 

[AWP]

Annnnnd approved.

Obama approves larger role for US forces in Afghanistan | Fox News

There is a broad desire across the Obama administration to give the military greater ability to help the Afghans fight and win the war.

The 9,800 U.S. troops still in Afghanistan, however, would still not be involved in direct combat.

Wait, I thought it was over and we were leaving? Oh well, can't win them all. At least we won't see our guys involved in combat...minus those pesky pilots.

As an example, U.S. troops are able to partner with Afghan special operations forces, but this new decision would allow commanders to have U.S. troops work more closely with conventional Afghan units in critical battles, including providing close air support or helping to call in strikes. Officials stressed that this will not allow routine U.S. airstrikes against the Taliban, just provide authority to take those actions when commanders believe they are vital to the fight.

Um, which one is it? No combat, no direct combat, or "work more closely?" Smells like garbage.

Also under discussion is whether the U.S. should reduce the number of American troops in Afghanistan to 5,500 as planned by the end of this year, or if a higher number is needed. Campbell favored keeping the troop level at the current total of 9,800 into next year.

Book it, done. Just like the anti-ISIL/ ISIS/ Daesh fight this can too will be kicked down the road. Good luck, Hillary! Take out that trash. All of you Viper pilots out there, enjoy your deployments to Bagram.

 

[Etype]

Annnnnd approved.

Obama approves larger role for US forces in Afghanistan | Fox News



Wait, I thought it was over and we were leaving? Oh well, can't win them all. At least we won't see our guys involved in combat...minus those pesky pilots.



Um, which one is it? No combat, no direct combat, or "work more closely?" Smells like garbage.



Book it, done. Just like the anti-ISIL/ ISIS/ Daesh fight this can too will be kicked down the road. Good luck, Hillary! Take out that trash. All of you Viper pilots out there, enjoy your deployments to Bagram.

All this hypocrisy and dancing around is what you get when you have lawyers and liberal arts majors running the show. Nothing is absolute, and words don't mean what you think they do, questions are answered with question and the answer is never found; if you think you know the answer, it's just because you're not as smart as they are.




Check out my adept semicolon usage in the tirade above.

 

[Red Flag 1]

I read Fox, CNN, sometimes MSNBC, Fark, and whatever else pops into my head at that moment. Fox and CNN will report the same story from different angles and are easy enough to cross check via The Google. Now you can start breaking out their respective bias regarding the story, see a few items on one site that isn't on the other, and piece together your own opinion or keep researching....

....and no one should have to become a junior intel analyst just to stay informed about the world.

Vermin.

If real journalism suddenly infected the major media players, the world would be in much better order. I believe nothing outside of local and area news.

Some of the local area reporters do get moved up from time to time. If that happened to a local reporter that you had learned to trust, would you believe said reporter if working for .....oh say CNN, or Fox?

 

[AWP]

Some of the local area reporters do get moved up from time to time. If that happened to a local reporter that you had learned to trust, would you believe said reporter if working for .....oh say CNN, or Fox?

None of them. Even if a journalist has integrity their editor doesn't. If the editor has integrity the owner or editorial staff do not. Years ago I dated a print journalist who covered business in our city. She would submit an article and then read it the next day in the paper....often they weren't the same. The editors knew to bury or omit information that would reflect poorly on local businesses and their stock prices. She said even local "cat in a tree" type stories would be revised or deleted if the topic or personnel involved had issues. "Car wreck injures two, police seeking suspect" would disappear if the driver had connections.

I don't trust the media at a local level. I sure as hell don't trust it at the national or international level.

She later told me if she had it to do over again she wouldn't have become a journalist. The last I heard from her she moved to NC and taught journalism before moving to NJ and becoming a corporate PR shill. She is/ was a good woman with conviction, but controlling information is a very big deal. I have a feeling she said "screw it" and went with the money once she accepted that the game's corrupt.

 

[Red Flag 1]

None of them. Even if a journalist has integrity their editor doesn't. If the editor has integrity the owner or editorial staff do not. Years ago I dated a print journalist who covered business in our city. She would submit an article and then read it the next day in the paper....often they weren't the same. The editors knew to bury or omit information that would reflect poorly on local businesses and their stock prices. She said even local "cat in a tree" type stories would be revised or deleted if the topic or personnel involved had issues. "Car wreck injures two, police seeking suspect" would disappear if the driver had connections.

I don't trust the media at a local level. I sure as hell don't trust it at the national or international level.

She later told me if she had it to do over again she wouldn't have become a journalist. The last I heard from her she moved to NC and taught journalism before moving to NJ and becoming a corporate PR shill. She is/ was a good woman with conviction, but controlling information is a very big deal. I have a feeling she said "screw it" and went with the money once she accepted that the game's corrupt.

It really is a shame to see journalism go down the road that it has. Like everything else, money and politics hold sway now. We as a Nation have fallen very far, and I don't think anyone cares at all.

 

[SpongeBob*24]

Annnnnd approved.

Obama approves larger role for US forces in Afghanistan | Fox News



Wait, I thought it was over and we were leaving? Oh well, can't win them all. At least we won't see our guys involved in combat...minus those pesky pilots.



Um, which one is it? No combat, no direct combat, or "work more closely?" Smells like garbage.



Book it, done. Just like the anti-ISIL/ ISIS/ Daesh fight this can too will be kicked down the road. Good luck, Hillary! Take out that trash. All of you Viper pilots out there, enjoy your deployments to Bagram.

Remember...someone has to be on the ground....

 

[AWP]

Meanwhile, in P2K...

 

[SpongeBob*24]

Jeaze....that looks like the Quigley down under Rifle.....

 

[racing_kitty]

Jeaze....that looks like the Quigley down under Rifle.....

You're fired. Just sign out your bar tab right here... Lol

 

[SpongeBob*24]

HAHA!!! I have to remortgage my house to pay off my bar bill....:-"

 

[R.Caerbannog]

Wait a sec... Is that Tatooine?

 

[Marauder06]

Negative. That's clearly the foothills of the Hindu Kush, surrounding Bagram Airfield. I remember it well... Freefalling took that picture just before he blasted the HQN operative shown.

 

[AWP]

Wait a sec... Is that Tatooine?

Star Wars was on TV the other night. There was a scene of a Tuskan Raider on overwatch as Luke's speeder cruised through a valley below. Take that scene and replace the TR with the Taliban and the speeder with an M-ATV and you have Afghanistan.....and it isn't like anyone ever called the locals "Jawas" or anything. :-"

AF is another planet and our droids don't carry holograms.

 

[AWP]

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! "Breaking point" as if that hasn't been the case for years.

Afghan-Pakistani border tensions prompt envoy's resignation threat - CNN.com

Kabul, Afghanistan (CNN)Afghanistan's ambassador to Pakistan appears to have threatened to resign if relations are not improved between the two neighbors.

"I don't see any reason for me to continue my current job" unless Pakistan suspended its construction of new installations at the busiest border crossing between the two countries, Dr. Omar Zakhilwal said.

When will AF wake up and stop being PK's bitch?

The Afghan government has long accused Pakistan of providing safe haven to Taliban militants. The Taliban has been fighting a 14-year insurgency against the Western-backed government in Pakistan.
Pakistan argues that it too suffers from violent attacks by Taliban fighters.

Why won't some media outlet report on the fact, and this is open source for YEARS now, that PK helped create the Taliban?!?!?!?! Does anyone think for a second the TB would rise to power in AF without the PK govt's help? The ISI trained and funded the Taliban and we even rolled up uniformed PK officers in 2001, allowing them and their TB buddies to leave in the Kunduz airlift. Where do they think the TTP came from, thin air?

Idiots.