The Trump Presidency 2.0
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Damn son!
I have a lot of respect for Shellenberger but this is very well put. Not just Americans feel that way, many Canadians do as well.
It was soooooo fucked up when Russia started invading. Reports of rocket and missile strikes on apartments and hospitals, the Russian troops left booby traps and mines all over the damn place. There were stories of Russian troops raping women, torturing people, and I believe that happened.
I figured we would send arms and ammo, not helmets like Germany, then we did.
Soon I started reading that Ukrain was asking for our patriot missiles, all these tanks, even fighter jets on the taxpayers dime. Even in the midst of all that death I still couldn't help but think that they had no respect for us. It was like the dirty ass Iraqi kid in the streets of Baghdad telling me in a stern voice "Give me money!"
Fuck Europe, let them handle it.
I figured we would send arms and ammo, not helmets like Germany, then we did.
Soon I started reading that Ukrain was asking for our patriot missiles, all these tanks, even fighter jets on the taxpayers dime. Even in the midst of all that death I still couldn't help but think that they had no respect for us. It was like the dirty ass Iraqi kid in the streets of Baghdad telling me in a stern voice "Give me money!"
Fuck Europe, let them handle it.
Kraut783
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It's a cluster for sure....one good thing that came out of it....
Exposure of Russian military paper tiger....destruction of a lot of Russian hardware...troops, naval ships.
F@ck you Putin!
Exposure of Russian military paper tiger....destruction of a lot of Russian hardware...troops, naval ships.
F@ck you Putin!
ThunderHorse
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EXCLUSIVE: Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth last week ordered U.S. Cyber Command to stand down from all planning against Russia, including offensive digital actions.https://t.co/fsFQzOt17y
— Martin Matishak (@martinmatishak) February 28, 2025
We suck.
How many times do you have to say thank you? He's said thank you many times.
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There's a lot of oddly pro Russian and Pro Putin talking points in this thread. Putin, hanging out a Kremlin Window. That is where we need to be.
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Wait, we actually did this?
Maybe you weren't around during the Cold War but the threat is still real. The only place that brings us, is with North America and Europe in a burning, radioactive heap.
ThunderHorse
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Re: US/Russia cyber
Is there even one legit source on this other than some dude on Twitter, who does not appear to be very reputable if you read more about him.
Kraut783
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So, are we really saying Russia (Putin) are our friends now?
Are we that freaking stupid?
Are we that freaking stupid?
ThunderHorse
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Who determines who is reputable and who is not? The Record seems to be a relatively reputable outlet on Cyber Security. Are you considering CNN a reputable source?
How quickly people forget...
Here's Churchill at the White House, champ https://t.co/5XRJLxsOYU pic.twitter.com/yZmhZ6ZY14
— Mike Nelson (@mikenelson586) February 28, 2025
Yeah man, major misstep. Sigh.
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That’s all that matters- I hope both teams have fun.
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I finally watched the entire press conference. It started with a very different tone. It's interesting and weird how quickly it turned.
As the post below indicates, this really occured once JD Vance stepped into it.
As the post below indicates, this really occured once JD Vance stepped into it.
Here is the full 50-minute conversation between President Trump and President Zelensky.
— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) February 28, 2025
There are a lot of politicians claiming Zelensky was "ambushed."
There was a full 40 minutes of dialogue before the "fireworks" started.
The president insisted throughout the first 40… pic.twitter.com/yu1ragwpAS
Spend sone time on European reddit subs and read what they say about America. Bold for countries with barely functioning militaries.
Imagine if we were still in Afghanistan. What would the victory be? Now imagine we pulled out 10 years earlier and saved all that effort and lives. That's where we are with Ukraine right now.
Are we going to give Ukraine dozens of our fighter jets and nukes??? Will we send troops to fight? Will Europe??
We all know they need that and much more to win.
Imagine if we were still in Afghanistan. What would the victory be? Now imagine we pulled out 10 years earlier and saved all that effort and lives. That's where we are with Ukraine right now.
Are we going to give Ukraine dozens of our fighter jets and nukes??? Will we send troops to fight? Will Europe??
We all know they need that and much more to win.
Devildoc
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Europe doesn't remember that they need the US to keep regional stability if not guarantee peace. It's been that way for most of the 20th century + 25 years. They just need to say 'thank you' and be quiet.
Stop making sense you’re getting in the way of some carefully crafted narratives and some very big emotions.
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