The Trump Presidency 2.0

[ThunderHorse]

So, when will the media hold themselves accountable for carrying water of the last administration...like Haley, I'm glad you are reading the reports and all...but this was a bad idea and you cheered it on then.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1919771290434502817

Good point, MAGA is a big tent.

If you're Republican but not MAGA, what is that? Are they still part of the party, or are "RINOs"?

That's not a "gotcha" question or anything, interested in your perspective on it.

What does this even mean? If you're a Republican, the Left looks at you automatically with disgust and calls you MAGA. It doesn't matter. The left made the decision for the Republicans here, time to get in lockstep and oppose their ideology.

MAGA is just Tea Party 3.0. Paul Ryan failed so he's anti-MAGA. He wants to make himself look like a saint because he doesn't use twitter. But, like the whole purpose of the Tea Party Republicans was to take out the trash in DC.

 

[Topkick]

just became a term Trump used for people that didn't agree with him. Cheney is a great example.

Cheney was treasonous, far beyond RINO. You may not agree with a candidate, but on election day, do your values align with the Democrat nomimee more than with the nominee of your own party? If so...yooooouuu might be a RINO.

 

[amlove21]

Cheney was treasonous, far beyond RINO. You may not agree with a candidate, but on election day, do your values align with the Democrat nomimee more than with the nominee of your own party? If so...yooooouuu might be a RINO.

And yooooou might be a boomer. Is that a fucking Jeff Foxworthy joke along with a RINO joke!? -1!!!

 

[Topkick]

And yooooou might be a boomer. Is that a fucking Jeff Foxworthy joke along with a RINO joke!? -1!!!

Technically I'm Gen x, but proudly an old soul. Impressed with how you picked up on the Foxworthy joke so quickly.

 

[amlove21]

...If you're a Republican, the Left looks at you automatically with disgust and calls you MAGA. It doesn't matter. The left made the decision for the Republicans here, time to get in lockstep and oppose their ideology.

MAGA is just Tea Party 3.0. Paul Ryan failed so he's anti-MAGA. He wants to make himself look like a saint because he doesn't use twitter. But, like the whole purpose of the Tea Party Republicans was to take out the trash in DC.

Well this is a fun little wrinkle. This is how the left characterizes it- I would be happy to show you the unhinged comments on my IG from the party of tolerance- all the hits. I won't bore you. Anyway, because I am a conservative, I get it all. The. Time.

"You just love Trump! You think everything he does is right. You support Project 2025! You believe X! You must believe Y and you don't support Z!!!"

I am none of those things. I register republican, I don't align with the party unless the principles of the party align with my principles and get me the desired outcome I want, and even that is by person/exception. My going-in stance is "these people are all liars and we are adversaries. All of them." I don't worship any man and certainly not any politicians. If DJT just somehow became irrelevant tomorrow and left the political space, I wouldn't care. On to the next guy, as long as he's doing things that align with my values and principles, which are non-negotiable.

If you have ideas or principles that are antithetical to the morals and ideals set forth for this country, that build her up- I will mercilessly mock you and shame you and call out our ideals. I do not care what you say in return. I care what the people watching you think. I want them to see a good idea, one that protects Americans and America, and I want them to see an unhinged, unsupported lunatic rant and rave about something they made up in their head to be true.

Watching people try to figure that position out is hilarious because PEOPLE NEVER ASK. It's crazy, but people (even here) never bother to go, "hey you said this thing or shared a video, what were you getting at?". They just jump right to "You're a TWMAGA guy!" (or whatever slur).

 

[Cookie_]

@757 and @amlove21 appreciate the detailed responses!

I think you could also divide MAGA vs. non-MAGA Republicans on whether or not they prioritize results vs. principle. MAGA REALLY likes to win. How they achieve that is far less important than actually winning. It's very Machiavellian by nature. Those who are more ok with losing as long as they "played the right way" tend to avoid being under the MAGA umbrella. They exist, but I think that's a critical divide that really separates the wheat from the chaff.

I think you're spot on with this way of looking at it. It's one of those things where I can't say I've ever thought of it like this, but reading it I immediately can see how it'd be applicable.

MAHA is really interesting- it's every based chick in the country that isn't a liberal white woman werido in the age group of 35-65. They all coalesced to sort of align with Normal MAGA and were a huge reason Trump won the last election. I just mention them because of their big space in the overall architecture at the moment. That alliance is crazy.

MAHA is a fun one, because it seems like it may be a very fickle group, not necessarily political. This group could become political, but overwhelmingly they remind me as the "health" version of occupy kids.

There just aren't a lot of them. The antonytm to these folks on the left would be Ro Khanna. Ro is essentially the bizarro version of Rand Paul.

I don't think I've ever heard Ro Khanna compared to Rand Paul, but I can understand what you're saying. Ro is (in my opinion) a good example of what Progressives should be focused on. I'd like the Dems to have more like him.

What does this even mean? If you're a Republican, the Left looks at you automatically with disgust and calls you MAGA. It doesn't matter. The left made the decision for the Republicans here, time to get in lockstep and oppose their ideology.

The question is because I don't care what "the left" thinks of what belongs in MAGA. MAGA is overwhelming conservative, so I'm interested in how someone on that side views things.

Hasan Piker, Bernie Sanders, Kamala Harris, and Eric Adams all might be "leftists" if asking the average person on the right, but if you wanted to know how people on the left viewed "progressive left" you ask someone from that group, not *insert right wing commentator*.

 

[Marauder06]

Lol yeah no one is saying it isn't useful, it's just sort of outdated and doesn't hold meaning anymore. Folks that only voted for Trump (and neglected to vote down ballot Republican because they only like Trump) would call people that didn't vote for Trump but voted down ballot R for everyone else "RINOs".

It just became a term Trump used for people that didn't agree with him. Cheney is a great example.

The bold part is where I am on being called pretty much anything anymore. Call me what you want, I'm just going to keep winning.

 

[amlove21]

OMFG I hate no one more than republicans in congress. With all the levers of power, Congress should be working 18 hours a day every day, passing bills to support the Presiden't agenda and making real, substantive, lasting change. And instead we get this.

House votes to make Trump Gulf of America name change permanent

-5, we are not a serious country.

 

[Cookie_]

OMFG I hate no one more than republicans in congress. With all the levers of power, Congress should be working 18 hours a day every day, passing bills to support the Presiden't agenda and making real, substantive, lasting change. And instead we get this.

House votes to make Trump Gulf of America name change permanent

-5, we are not a serious country.

Of all the EOs, this is the first one voted on?

LMFAO, ridiculous. Just further shows that neither party really wants to "govern" when they are in charge.

 

[amlove21]

Of all the EOs, this is the first one voted on?

LMFAO, ridiculous. Just further shows that neither party really wants to "govern" when they are in charge.

Nope, they don't. Exactly correct. Maddening.

 

[amlove21]

Ok wait I have hope.

BREAKING: Rep. Luna Introduces Legislation to Repeal the USA Patriot Act

 

[Muppet]

Crazy, all of this. Fucking government and their blood sucking leach politicians want us to be doing this, in fighting, arguing over politics, placing everything and everyone in political boxes, the others being the enemy.

What are we that despise them all and want to live our lives, brains open to realize that they are 2 heads of the same monster?

 

[amlove21]

Crazy, all of this. Fucking government and their blood sucking leach politicians want us to be doing this, in fighting, arguing over politics, placing everything and everyone in political boxes, the others being the enemy.

What are we that despise them all and want to live our lives, brains open to realize that they are 2 heads of the same monster?

You're an independent, smart American Citizen, my friend. Just like everyone else that loves this country and wants what's best for her.

 

[Devildoc]

Crazy, all of this. Fucking government and their blood sucking leach politicians want us to be doing this, in fighting, arguing over politics, placing everything and everyone in political boxes, the others being the enemy.

What are we that despise them all and want to live our lives, brains open to realize that they are 2 heads of the same monster?

Right wing and left wing belong to the same bird. Or something like that.

 

[amlove21]

Wait a second- we just got our first American pope?! WE ARE SO BACK.

Cardinal Robert Prevost announced as first American pope, taking name Leo XIV

 

[AWP]

Epstein - American
Diddy - American
The Pope - American

Looks like 15 year olds are back on the menu, folks!

 

[amlove21]

Epstein - American
Diddy - American
The Pope - American

Looks like 15 year olds are back on the menu, folks!

Hahahahah wow canceled! If only the rabbit was here to give us a deep dive into Epstein's true nationality... cest la vie!

 

[Cookie_]

Wait a second- we just got our first American pope?! WE ARE SO BACK.

Cardinal Robert Prevost announced as first American pope, taking name Leo XIV

JD Vance secretly killed Pope Francis so the CIA could establish an American successor.

(Probably an actual plan workshopped in the 60s.)

 

[amlove21]

JD Vance secretly killed Pope Francis so the CIA could establish an American successor.

(Probably an actual plan workshopped in the 60s.)

Oh man this makes the Vance/Pope memes even funnier.

 

[AWP]

JD Vance secretly killed Pope Francis so the CIA could establish an American successor.

(Probably an actual plan workshopped in the 60s.)

Look up the story of Virgilio Scatalolini (sp?) during WWII and the players.