The Trump Presidency 2.0

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MARTIAL LAW SKREEEEE SKREEEE
LITERALLY RUDOLF HIPSTER SKREEEEE SKREEEE
DICTATOR SKREEEEEEE SKREEEEEEE

"I have a pen and a phone"
...crickets

"Take pictures of your tattoos and document them"
...crickets

"You're on lockdown"
...crickets

"No religious gatherings"
...crickets

"Get that untested shot or you are fucking fired"
...crickets

"Death and tragedy for the unvaccinated"
...crickets

ORANGEMANBAD SKREEEEE SKREEEE



edited to add:
I am very ok with hypocrisy.
When I drink my coffee in the morning, I add a splash of half and half, and two heaping spoonful's of hypocrisy to sweeten it up.
Mostly because MY hypocrisy is based in self righteousness and patriotism.
Leftist hypocrisy is rooted in communism and tyranny.
My hypocrisy is cheeky and fun..
...leftist hypocrisy is cruel and tragic.

 

[amlove21]

Checks to see why the sky is falling today... ah yes, federalizing LE in DC.

Don't care, it's not happening in Vegas. Whatever is happening in some city far away does not affect me.

 

[Cookie_]

Putting this here because it seems to be more about political posturing than an actual thing.

National Guard plan would create military ‘reaction force’ for civil unrest

The plan calls for 600 troops to be on standby at all times so they can deploy in as little as one hour, the documents say. They would be split into two groups of 300 and stationed at military bases in Alabama and Arizona, with purview of regions east and west of the Mississippi River, respectively.

The proposal being evaluated now would allow the president to mobilize troops and put them on Title 32 orders in a state experiencing unrest. The documents detailing the plan acknowledge the potential for political friction should the governor refuse to work with the Pentagon.

The proposal envisions a rotation of service members from Army and Air Force National Guard units based in multiple states. Those include Alabama, Arizona, California, Illinois, Maryland, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, South Carolina and Tennessee, the documents say.

The 300 troops in each of the two headquarters’ locations would be outfitted with weapons and riot gear, the documents say. The first 100 would be ready to move within an hour, with the second and third waves ready to move within two and 12 hours notice, the documents note, or all immediately deployed when placed on high alert.

The quick-reaction teams would be on task for 90 days, the documents said, “to limit burnout.”

So a quarterly duty for 600 troops would be to go TDY and sit at a base as a "standby" option?

Hopefully they're somewhere with a DFAC, so they can feed them for the government rate of $2.8 million a year. If they've gotta get Per Diem that'll be (low end) $25 million. Thats just food, I'm not mathing out lodging or other associated costs.
I know it says T32, but there's no way this plan doesn't tax each state's already thinning budget.

Additionally, how do they get around soldiers from another state operating in a state that didn't request support? That's a huge quagmire to solve first.

All in all, it's probably just stupid grandstanding. I look forward to this becoming Jade Helm 2027

 

[The Quartermaster]

The coexist people (trash seditionists) are already trying to misinform the purpose of what those troops would be used for.

 

[amlove21]

Putting this here because it seems to be more about political posturing than an actual thing.

National Guard plan would create military ‘reaction force’ for civil unrest






So a quarterly duty for 600 troops would be to go TDY and sit at a base as a "standby" option?

Hopefully they're somewhere with a DFAC, so they can feed them for the government rate of $2.8 million a year. If they've gotta get Per Diem that'll be (low end) $25 million. Thats just food, I'm not mathing out lodging or other associated costs.
I know it says T32, but there's no way this plan doesn't tax each state's already thinning budget.

Additionally, how do they get around soldiers from another state operating in a state that didn't request support? That's a huge quagmire to solve first.

All in all, it's probably just stupid grandstanding. I look forward to this becoming Jade Helm 2027

$25M? We have room for that in the budget after Doge deep-sixed NIH's landmark study- "the impact of structural racism and discrimination on health outcomes in minority communities." That was actually $27M, so we have some wiggle room for the DFAC.

 

[TLDR20]

Checks to see why the sky is falling today... ah yes, federalizing LE in DC.

Don't care, it's not happening in Vegas. Whatever is happening in some city far away does not affect me.

Ah but the nuance, this is federally directed.

 

[Cookie_]

$25M? We have room for that in the budget after Doge deep-sixed NIH's landmark study- "the impact of structural racism and discrimination on health outcomes in minority communities." That was actually $27M, so we have some wiggle room for the DFAC.

The NGB budget got slashed pretty well for FY26, with continuous percentage cuts each year until FY30(IIRC).

We (the Fed), have money to do basically anything, but this seems to be another thing where we want to do more with less. I'll be interested to see if budgets increase for this plan specifically in FY27, if they move forward with it.

 

[amlove21]

Ah but the nuance, this is federally directed.

Ah yes, "nuance", the French word for, "I don't have a principled position so please allow me to move the goalposts", or something. Crime and the culture of DC didn't matter until very recently because it doesn't affect you locally; taking murderers off the streets after years of mismanagement and corruption does (because you don't like the dude doing it or how).

It's legal, it should have happened years ago, I don't care. It's another 80/20 issue that's going to follow the same playbook as all the rest-If anything, it's the roadmap for St Louis, Birmingham, Cleveland, Baltimore and a host of others with murder rates north of 30 per 100k.

The NGB budget got slashed pretty well for FY26, with continuous percentage cuts each year until FY30(IIRC).

We (the Fed), have money to do basically anything, but this seems to be another thing where we want to do more with less. I'll be interested to see if budgets increase for this plan specifically in FY27, if they move forward with it.

Money is fungible, and military money is always fake anyway. We can find it!

 

[AWP]

The NGB budget got slashed pretty well for FY26, with continuous percentage cuts each year until FY30(IIRC).

We (the Fed), have money to do basically anything, but this seems to be another thing where we want to do more with less. I'll be interested to see if budgets increase for this plan specifically in FY27, if they move forward with it.

The Guard's going to party like it's 1999 and then people will complain the Guard is useless, poorly trained, etc.

I played this game once before and it doesn't end well.

 

[amlove21]

The Guard's going to party like it's 1999 and then people will complain the Guard is useless, poorly trained, etc.

I played this game once before and it doesn't end well.

I want a roll-up of debauchery like we got from LA.

 

[AWP]

I want a roll-up of debauchery like we got from LA.

You put dudes on 90-day orders, guys who will probably lose their jobs over that shit, students set back another semester, etc. on top of "normal" military behavior? You're going to get a bunch of stupid playing out in front of the media and social media. Huh, not unlike LA... So, we know how this QRF will play out.

And for those not around in the 90's, deep cuts to the Army Guard budget have unpleasant 2nd and 3rd order effects. Everyone in DC laughed off complaints and warnings until 2002 hit and units began showing up at mob stations.

 

[Marauder06]

I think we can probably get a hundred, maybe a couple hundred, of Guardsmen and Reservists in the greater DC area who would be willing to volunteer to go on multi-month activation orders. But yes, it is going to be expensive. And also, is it worth the political and financial cost of doing it?

 

[AWP]

Another angle, and we've seen this play before, is 47 dangles this out there and then "TACO"* except it forces people to do their jobs.

* - Sarcasm for anyone wondering.

 

[Cookie_]

I think we can probably get a hundred, maybe a couple hundred, of Guardsmen and Reservists in the greater DC area who would be willing to volunteer to go on multi-month activation orders. But yes, it is going to be expensive. And also, is it worth the political and financial cost of doing it?

I think the DC thing is pretty easy to get volunteers for, and won't be cost prohibitive since it's local orders.

Establishing a split country QRF will be much harder/expensive to fill for, in my view, very little political gain.

 

[amlove21]

I think we can probably get a hundred, maybe a couple hundred, of Guardsmen and Reservists in the greater DC area who would be willing to volunteer to go on multi-month activation orders. But yes, it is going to be expensive. And also, is it worth the political and financial cost of doing it?

Maybe an intended (probably unintended) third order consequence here is deterrence. If there is a possiblity- even a remote one- that you could get the feds in your neighborhood for wilding out, maybe the wilding out decreases?

I wish I could trust crime reporting numbers, but the incidence of changing classifications of crimes, handcuffing rank and file LEOs via policy, or (in some cases) outright lying about stats is too damn high.

 

[Marauder06]

Maybe an intended (probably unintended) third order consequence here is deterrence. If there is a possiblity- even a remote one- that you could get the feds in your neighborhood for wilding out, maybe the wilding out decreases?

I wish I could trust crime reporting numbers, but the incidence of changing classifications of crimes, handcuffing rank and file LEOs via policy, or (in some cases) outright lying about stats is too damn high.

I don't think it will have much of an effect at all. I think getting the feds involved is exactly what some of the other side wants. The movement needs its martyrs. It needs blood. The Left needs Orange Man Bad to be literally Hitler.

 

[amlove21]

I don't think it will have much of an effect at all. I think getting the feds involved is exactly what some of the other side wants. The movement needs its martyrs. It needs blood. The Left needs Orange Man Bad to be literally Hitler.

Yeah I don't disagree here. It's also crazy to watch the entire left try and gaslight me into believing that 24, 27, 31 (depending on who you believe) murders per 100k "isn't that bad". The only people who disagree with that line of reasoning are the 91% of people polled living in DC that rated crime as a "very big problem/concern" or a "moderate concern".

 

[amlove21]

This. This is the take. This guy gets exactly what he is supposed to do when he has the mic.

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[Cookie_]

Yeah I don't disagree here. It's also crazy to watch the entire left try and gaslight me into believing that 24, 27, 31 (depending on who you believe) murders per 100k "isn't that bad". The only people who disagree with that line of reasoning are the 91% of people polled living in DC that rated crime as a "very big problem/concern" or a "moderate concern".

Quick napkin math (only counting DC, not the metro area) gets me 26.xx for 2024, so pretty close to the 27 the WH claims. It's about 14 so far this year, but it'll probably go up a bit throughout the rest of summer.

For comparison, the two cities with similar populations (Nashville and Las Vegas) both had a rate of ~15 last year.

This. This is the take. This guy gets exactly what he is supposed to do when he has the mic.

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What a fucking dweeb lol

 

[Marauder06]

This. This is the take. This guy gets exactly what he is supposed to do when he has the mic.

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Classic example of luxury belief systems in action. "I don't care about peasant things (like crime, poverty, and quality of life), because I'm not a peasant!"