The Trump Presidency 2.0

Topkick said:
@amlove21 is right either way and I'm sure there is still a crime here he can be charged with.
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Feds need to step in and charge.
Local DA will plea it to nothing, or never bring to trial if it was staged.
Letting the guy face real time in the Federal System could elicit a confession.
 
Topkick said:
@amlove21 is right either way and I'm sure there is still a crime here he can be charged with.
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So first of all there’s a specific reason I want him charged.

This was a work. A shoot. Fake as fuck. She clearly makes eye contact with the dude as a key to start. She wasn’t worried *at all* about the liquid and went right back to the conference. You’re telling me Ilhan Omar doesn’t know what an acid attack is? I haven’t seen a verified report yet on the liquid so I’ll hold there.

The dude that did it is the father of 2 or 3 (conflicting reports) LGBTQ identifying kids. Which side you think he’s aligned with.

I want him charged with whatever will stick. The most heavy handed possible. I want him threatened with hard time. Hate crime? Sure. Go for it.

Because when they press him and self preservation kicks in and this turns out to be Jussie Smollett v 2? Omar is done.

And Trump should come out and throw his full weight behind “let’s turn the rhetoric down and this attack must not stand”, too. Offer her help. Call her. All of it.

ETA - I read apple cider vinegar but was too lazy to verify as I was writing, good work and ty @Blizzard
 
amlove21 said:
So first of all there’s a specific reason I want him charged.

This was a work. A shoot. Fake as fuck. She clearly makes eye contact with the dude as a key to start. She wasn’t worried *at all* about the liquid and went right back to the conference. You’re telling me Ilhan Omar doesn’t know what an acid attack is? I haven’t seen a verified report yet on the liquid so I’ll hold there.

The dude that did it is the father of 2 or 3 (conflicting reports) LGBTQ identifying kids. Which side you think he’s aligned with.

I want him charged with whatever will stick. The most heavy handed possible. I want him threatened with hard time. Hate crime? Sure. Go for it.

Because when they press him and self preservation kicks in and this turns out to be Jussie Smollett v 2? Omar is done.

And Trump should come out and throw his full weight behind “let’s turn the rhetoric down and this attack must not stand”, too. Offer her help. Call her. All of it.

ETA - I read apple cider vinegar but was too lazy to verify as I was writing, good work and ty @Blizzard
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Dude, the world is so crazy I'd just as likely believe he's mad Omar "hasn't done enough" and/or decided to create an attack to get media attention.

Occam's Razor gets duller every year.
 
amlove21 said:
So first of all there’s a specific reason I want him charged.

This was a work. A shoot. Fake as fuck. She clearly makes eye contact with the dude as a key to start. She wasn’t worried *at all* about the liquid and went right back to the conference. You’re telling me Ilhan Omar doesn’t know what an acid attack is? I haven’t seen a verified report yet on the liquid so I’ll hold there.

The dude that did it is the father of 2 or 3 (conflicting reports) LGBTQ identifying kids. Which side you think he’s aligned with.

I want him charged with whatever will stick. The most heavy handed possible. I want him threatened with hard time. Hate crime? Sure. Go for it.

Because when they press him and self preservation kicks in and this turns out to be Jussie Smollett v 2? Omar is done.

And Trump should come out and throw his full weight behind “let’s turn the rhetoric down and this attack must not stand”, too. Offer her help. Call her. All of it.

ETA - I read apple cider vinegar but was too lazy to verify as I was writing, good work and ty @Blizzard
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Couldn't even do hot sauce?
 
Cookie_ said:
Dude, the world is so crazy I'd just as likely believe he's mad Omar "hasn't done enough" and/or decided to create an attack to get media attention.

Occam's Razor gets duller every year.
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His ex is a well known political activist, close ties to AOC and Omar, could be just a crazy dude that is somehow mad at his ex and lashing out? That doesn’t answer any other questions, but makes no nevermind to me.

Throw the book at him go from there.
 
Just a random thought for the "It's both sides" folks.

Can anyone here present something on the right like what we are seeing from the left in Minnesota? The signal chats? The hunting of federal agents? The coordination?

Or are we all good with "the left commits political violence at scope and scale magnitudes of order higher than the right" now? I think we have enough evidence.
 
Topkick said:
I think this statement is overused by people who want to avoid tough conversations. Not unlike claiming whataboutism when you really just dont want to hear the other side.
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When we're talking about something that's going on right now, and they instantly default to Epstein or 6th JAN, it's for sure a whataboutism.

Whataboutism is used when they don't want to admit that their side was wrong and it's a way for them to deflect and move the goalposts to avoid admittance that they were wrong, another fallacy. It's a valid claim here. I want to talk about what just happened, I am not avoiding something entirely irrelevant that's being used to topic slide away from what's making them uncomfortable.
 
Whataboutism has its place. In most cases, you can blame a president or leader for something and then the other side can point out how your guy did it too, or in some cases, worse. In this case, the other side is against Trump's hard stance on illegal immigration but I'll point out that their hero, BHO, deported a shit ton of people and there are many validated instances where Dems were for deportation until TDS set in. Its why we are where we are in Minnesota.
 
Topkick said:
Whataboutism has its place. In most cases, you can blame a president or leader for something and then the other side can point out how your guy did it too, or in some cases, worse. In this case, the other side is against Trump's hard stance on illegal immigration but I'll point out that their hero, BHO, deported a shit ton of people and there are many validated instances where Dems were for deportation until TDS set in. Its why we are where we are in Minnesota.
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Agreed.

I don't understand the hypocrisy. It's like they're doing it not for anything else other than because of TDS. No reason to it. In Phoenix recently, they're mad that some human trafficking at grills and eateries were broken up not because the food and establishment that they frequent are gone, or that human beings that they keep gaslighting us to have some compassion and empathy for, were being used as slaves. They were mad that it was even done at all because orange man bad, fuck Trump, fuck ICE, etc, and not for the fact that human beings were being exploited and also happened to be here illegally.
 
amlove21 said:
Just a random thought for the "It's both sides" folks.

Can anyone here present something on the right like what we are seeing from the left in Minnesota? The signal chats? The hunting of federal agents? The coordination?

Or are we all good with "the left commits political violence at scope and scale magnitudes of order higher than the right" now? I think we have enough evidence.
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I have always been in that camp, at least since I started paying attention to politics. Or history.
 

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