The Trump Presidency 2.0

amlove21 said:
this story will become the new "assault on democracy", it's already happening.
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Democrats are super pissed that Tulsi Gabbard has been on site in Georgia. They are wondering why she's there, I'm wondering why they are so upset? The media narrative is now to claim Tulsi Gabbard has been a failure in her position and basically has been assigned busy work. This is interesting to me, because I believe there was big election fraud and it needs to be addressed. No, I'm not ready to move on. It still matters.
 
Say you uncover fraud, slam dunk evidence. What's next? Throw people in jail like they did over Jan. 6 prosecutions? Like with Epstein? The infamous laptop? 2016 elections? Whatever else I've forgotten?

Republicans aren't going to do shit and even if they do, what does it say about the topics above? Some of those topics could carry 20 to life, but who is in jail over them? Not the Democrats. What foreign parties or actors were banned from the US? Yeah...
 
Hearing things about Maricopa county being next. Although I think there were some funny things that occurred out here, my wife is an Attorney and we know the Recorder from the time. 1. He was a Democrat 2. My feeling from the time based on my wife's work is that things were pretty professional. The weird things were ballot harvesting, well Mesa had a councilman run a ballot harvesting company that got rolled up for doing that shit in other parts of the state...but also in Pennsylvania. Apparently they didn't find enough evidence to charge in AZ and I believe ballot harvesting is not illegal in PA. But shit like that is where there are problems that can be legal but lead to issues.
 
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AWP said:
Say you uncover fraud, slam dunk evidence. What's next? Throw people in jail like they did over Jan. 6 prosecutions? Like with Epstein? The infamous laptop? 2016 elections? Whatever else I've forgotten?

Republicans aren't going to do shit and even if they do, what does it say about the topics above? Some of those topics could carry 20 to life, but who is in jail over them? Not the Democrats. What foreign parties or actors were banned from the US? Yeah...
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People can sue Georgia to recover legal fees.
Fulton Co. DA aggressively prosecuted folks for false claims.
 
DA SWO said:
People can sue Georgia to recover legal fees.
Fulton Co. DA aggressively prosecuted folks for false claims.
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So...nothing. Good for them, but for the country at large? COVID, Abbey Gate, vaccine mandates, the border and immigration...things that wouldn't happen without the fraud.

And why raid now? If this is such a big issue, why make the raid now? And for what? To do nothing AGAIN? The Republicans are just throwing away campaign promises and W after W on the scoreboard. Are they incompetent? Not trying? There's no evidence? They don't care? Those were merely soundbites for the base? Why are they missing on opportunity after opportunity?

I'd hate to think the highwater mark of draining the swamp ended last year with DOGE.
 
Marauder06 said:
Carlin was totally right. A lot of really interesting and thoughtful people of many different political persuasions have become completely boring (and some even unhinged) over the years, because they have allowed their ideology to become their identity and were eventually consumed by their own tribalism.

When Your Ideology Becomes Your Identity: The Hidden Cost of Political Tribalism

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Spot on. And they too obsessed with it to even realize that it's consuming them.
 
We're just over a year into Trump 2.0. While I subscribe to the belief that you can't really judge a president's effectiveness until about a decade out of office, I'm curious what everyone sees as his best and worst moments since last year's inauguration.

I'd have to go with foreign policy and USAID on the positive side and the DOJ's/ FBI's complete failure as his worst by a mile. I'd have to pick messaging as a secondary because of some ignored opportunities to drive home Democrat failures.
 
AWP said:
We're just over a year into Trump 2.0. While I subscribe to the belief that you can't really judge a president's effectiveness until about a decade out of office, I'm curious what everyone sees as his best and worst moments since last year's inauguration.

I'd have to go with foreign policy and USAID on the positive side and the DOJ's/ FBI's complete failure as his worst by a mile. I'd have to pick messaging as a secondary because of some ignored opportunities to drive home Democrat failures.
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I'm at the point in my life where I either vote for good or for evil and sometimes for the lesser evil, and there was a time in my life when it was voting for who I thought was best for our interests with no hard feelings for the other. But that all stopped after Bill Clinton and both Obama and Biden made sure to seal that door shut and regard them all as evil.

Trump was both times, the lesser evil. I will no longer listen to RINOS, lolberts, and the D's. I am tired of them all with their dehumanizing and making enemies out of people over disagreements with opinions not shared or respected by the other. That's evil, pure evil IMO.
 
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