United States & Gun Control discussion.

[Th3 Maelstr0m]

"Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself."

I love this quote, but President Washington didn't say it.

http://www.mountvernon.org/educational-resources/encyclopedia/spurious-quotations

 

[Marine0311]

I love this quote, but President Washington didn't say it.

http://www.mountvernon.org/educational-resources/encyclopedia/spurious-quotations

"A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well-digested plan is requisite; and their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories as tend to render them independent of others for essential, particularly military, supplies."

I do like this one also.

 

[Marine0311]

• Guns are used 2.5 million times a year in self-defense. Law-abiding citizens use guns to defend themselves against criminals as many as 2.5 million times every year—or about 6,850 times a day. This means that each year, firearms are used more than 60 times more often to protect the lives of honest citizens than to take lives.
• Locking up firearms can cost lives during a life-threatening situation.
• Guns are the "great equalizer" for women. As many as 200,000 women use a gun every year to defend themselves against sexual abuse.
• Law-abiding gun owners are a good form of crime control. Citizens shoot and kill at least twice as many criminals as police do every year (1,527 to 606).[9]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_Owners_of_America

 

[Marine0311]

*1,000*

 

[AWP]

Not much of a shock.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/...gh-capacity-magazine-135811961--politics.html

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, an NRA supporter, announced on Wednesday morning he will vote for bans on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines being offered as amendments one month after pulling those bans from a package of overall gun-reform legislation.

"I will vote for [Sen.] Dianne Feinstein’s assault weapons ban," Reid announced on the Senate floor as the chamber prepared to begin voting later Wednesday on gun legislation amendments.

The Nevada Democrat, who noted Wednesday that he has a B rating from the NRA and who has voted against past assault weapon bans, said his opinion has evolved and he no longer understands why assault weapons and high-capacity magazines are necessary.

 

[surgicalcric]

The Nevada Democrat, who noted Wednesday that he has a B rating from the NRA and who has voted against past assault weapon bans, said his opinion has evolved and he no longer understands why assault weapons and high-capacity magazines are necessary.

They are to keep you shit heads from running amuck with the rest of the Bill Of Rights.

 

[Marine0311]

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Senate has rejected a bipartisan effort to expand federal background checks to more firearms buyers in a crucial showdown over gun control.
Wednesday's vote was a jarring blow to the drive to curb firearms sparked by December's massacre of children and staff at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn. President Barack Obama made broadened background checks the centerpiece of his gun control proposals.
The roll call was also a victory for the National Rifle Association, which opposed the plan as an ineffective infringement on gun rights.
The proposal would have required background checks for all transactions at gun shows and online. Currently they must occur for sales handled by licensed gun dealers.
The system is designed to keep criminals and people with mental problems from getting guns


http://bigstory.ap.org/article/senate-rejects-expanded-gun-background-checks

 

[Dame]

Which is why it was a switch for Reid. No lose situation. He knew it didn't have the votes to pass but could be seen as supporting it.

 

[Mac_NZ]

I guess this is why no one from the Obama administration could attend Baroness Thatchers funeral today, have to get that last push in to disarm your peasants and what! She wasn't exactly a fan of socialism either which may irk them somewhat.

Good news though.

 

[pardus]

"This was a pretty shameful day for Washington," said Obama

Be thankful the Senate stopped you being a traitor.

 

[pardus]

 

[SpitfireV]

He's really having quite the cry over it. Poor baby.

 

[Salt USMC]

This is a good thing, fellas, but remember that this is just one part that was shot down. S.150 (Feinstein's grand AWB) is still on the senate docket and hasn't hit the floor yet. Keep your eyes peeled because THAT will be the one to watch.

By the way, govtrack.us (And thomas.loc.gov) is a great site if you want to see what's happening in congress.

 

[8654Maine]

Yup, the fight is far from over. One skirmish at a time, folks.
Now, how 'bout them gun and ammo prices?

 

[policemedic]

Yup, the fight is far from over. One skirmish at a time, folks.
Now, how 'bout them gun and ammo prices?

Hell, I'd pay the price if I could find ammo or components.

 

[AWP]

Hell, I'd pay the price if I could find ammo or components.

Depending on the components you're looking for, Ranier Arms currently has a slightly better selection and stock than Bravo Company.

 

[policemedic]

Depending on the components you're looking for, Ranier Arms currently has a slightly better selection and stock than Bravo Company.

I meant reloading components. I should have been more specific. Rainier is a good company, though.

 

[Confederate Son]

For all of you NASCAR fans out there...I'll keep my rant to myself. Most of you know my thoughts on the organization.

http://news.yahoo.com/espn-sources-two-nascar-drivers-175819684.html

Nothing like being half a step away from stepping on your own crank. The only thing most NASCAR fans are a bigger fan of besides beer..is guns. I don't see many of them boycoting but it's a pretty sharp slap to the face considering how Sponsor friendly and driven NASCAR is. It's pretty disappointing i.m.o.

 

[Marine0311]

I can't wrap my head around the liberal sheep idea that "guns R bad":wall:

 

[Blizzard]

Yup, the fight is far from over. One skirmish at a time, folks.
Now, how 'bout them gun and ammo prices?

Assuming you can even find ammo! Was at the range a couple days ago and had to replace my range ammo (I'm not a reloader). I had a better chance of finding a unicorn than I did .40 S&W. The range had no ammo (any caliber), neither did the 3 shops in the area that I called. Finally found a box yesterday...last one on the shelf.

The stuff is getting snatched up as quick as they can stock it....and like you said, if you can find it, the prices are nuts; locally about $2 a round (.40 S&W) for range ammo! Certainly makes you think some strings are being pulled somewhere.