United States & Gun Control discussion.

[Marine0311]

Good catch. I missed that.

I didn't compare the total population of the state and those numbers are pulled directly from the FBI's website. Table's 5 and 20. You make a great point, but it underscores one of my premises: if we can't trust the data and yet EVERY side quotes "the numbers" then why is this a discussion? As you well know if we don't have hard numbers or some type of facts then we're left with guesses? Emotions? "Bro logic?" I wouldn't support changing any law if those were the reasons, much less the Constitution.

People bring up background checks and how, if the system is overwhelmed, one can still purchase a gun. If the system doesn't return a hit you can still buy a gun. Ok, fine.

Where are the calls to fix THAT before they go for guns?

I know I'm largely preaching to the choir, but this whole debate, a very important one at that, hinges on BS, bad numbers, emotions, and whatever whargarbl we can dredge up than...you know, actual things that can be fixed.

I missed that level of detail, but it came straight from the FBI. If we can't trust the information provided by the top law enforcement arm in this country, then who can we trust? CNN? Fox? Some celebrity?

Nonsense.

Can I use what you posted in the future?

 

[AWP]

Can I use what you posted in the future?

The charts above?

 

[Marine0311]

The charts above?

Yes. Like in conversation and such.

 

[AWP]

Yes. Like in conversation and such.

The info's all public domain. All I did was copy-paste and do the math. Have at it.

 

[x SF med]

Yes. Like in conversation and such.

J. those numbers suck, there are huge errors in the methodology just look at my post above, the data are screwy. (yes, that is correct; data are, datum is)

 

[Marine0311]

J. those numbers suck, there are huge errors in the methodology just look at my post above, the data are screwy. (yes, that is correct; data are, datum is)

I see. I'll continue to do more research then.

 

[AWP]

And we have a shooting at a college in Oregon. 10 confirmed dead so far.

 

[Gunz]

Here we go again

 

[DA SWO]

And we have a shooting at a college in Oregon. 10 confirmed dead so far.

Guess the no guns allowed policy wasn't enforced (yes, it's sarcasm).

Dems will be demanding extra gun laws by 10PM tonight.

 

[AWP]

Dems will be demanding extra gun laws by 10PM tonight.

And more and more in the middle will join them and the Constitution will be legislated into irrelevance.

 

[Marine0311]

I'll continue the fight because I know I am going to hear about this from the gun control nuts I know.

 

[Salt USMC]

Can we give it a day before we start talking about gun control? Can we do that this time?

At least 10 people are dead. I, for one, don't give a shit about guns right now.

 

[Grunt]

Unfortunately -- and sadly so -- colleges and universities have become the soft targets of anyone with angst against anything or any body and for any cause.

Rest In Peace to the fallen and prayers out for their families!

 

[DA SWO]

Can we give it a day before we start talking about gun control? Can we do that this time?

At least 10 people are dead. I, for one, don't give a shit about guns right now.

No, because we know one side will view this as an opportunity.

 

[TH15]

There are unconfirmed reports that the shooter was asking victims about their religion before shooting them. Christians (allegedly) received a shot to the head, everyone else got a shot to the leg(s).

Link:
The UCC Shooter Made His Victims Answer Just One Horrifying Question Before Taking Their Lives

 

[AWP]

I would take every preliminary report with a grain of salt.
#handsupdon'tshoot

 

[Marine0311]

I give it a good 8 hours before accurate reports come out.

Rest in peace to those that lost their lives.

 

[policemedic]

Can we give it a day before we start talking about gun control? Can we do that this time?

At least 10 people are dead. I, for one, don't give a shit about guns right now.

We could, because we're decent people.

Obama, on the other hand, was more than happy to jump in and spout the gun control talking points before the sun had set on this tragedy.

 

[Rapid]

Fuck people in mainstream media. Worthless cunts.

Edit: mirror, in case CNN takes it down.

The Hypocrisy Of How The Media Covers Mass Shootings

 

[Red Flag 1]

If only the media could return to the profession of journalism. The only spin we really need, is the one that gives us night and day.