United States & Gun Control discussion.

[RackMaster]

Saw this yesterday and was waiting to see @RackMaster's take on it.

Didn't look at it real closely but my initial thought was, "Good luck with that". Then again, there's a lot of sheeple out there and Canada has been doing some pretty crazy things lately.

It's done. Legally we can't do anything about it without an election. He is letting anti-gun groups dictate policy and they are pushing for more. Any purchases prior to yesterday are being processed but they are now useless. They are coming for all guns.

He's doing the same with oil and gas, our Environment Minister was a former director of Greenpeace.

Here's a good source, they are our largest firearms rights group and only registered lobbyist.

"The newer, uglier C-21 - Canadian Coalition for Firearm Rights" The newer, uglier C-21 - Canadian Coalition for Firearm Rights

 

[Blizzard]

It's done. Legally we can't do anything about it without an election. He is letting anti-gun groups dictate policy and they are pushing for more. Any purchases prior to yesterday are being processed but they are now useless. They are coming for all guns.

He's doing the same with oil and gas, our Environment Minister was a former director of Greenpeace.

Here's a good source, they are our largest firearms rights group and only registered lobbyist.

"The newer, uglier C-21 - Canadian Coalition for Firearm Rights" The newer, uglier C-21 - Canadian Coalition for Firearm Rights

How does Canada regulate sales between private sellers?

 

[RackMaster]

How does Canada regulate sales between private sellers?

All handguns and restricted firearms, like the AR; have been registered with the government from the manufacturer or importer, for decades. The seller has to call their Provincial firearms office to verify the buyers license and initiate the sale. Once verified an authorization to transport (ATT) is given to the buyer and it's typically straight home. If they then want to take it to a gunsmith or range, they then need to call and initiate a new ATT. It also has restrictions on how it's stored/locked for transport. But just like AR's and anything they defined as "assault style"; you will never get an ATT. I expect before or during the next election, Trudeau will push for buy backs on handguns. Although the buyback on "assault style" guns hasn't started yet and we're up to 5 provinces refusing to allow their police assets used for enforcement of the buyback. It's all a fucking mess.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

This thread is really going off the rails...

Moving mass shooting discussion out of Gun Control thread and over to here:

School/Mass shootings are now part of our culture.

 

[Diamondback 2/2]

Moving mass shooting discussion out of Gun Control thread and over to here:

School/Mass shootings are now part of our culture.

Oh god, they put you in charge of something again?

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Oh god, they put you in charge of something again?

 

[RackMaster]

Well Trudeau, for the third time has added to the list of banned firearms. They let an anti-gun advocy group dictate policy by advising them on defining "assault-style weapon". Attached is the current list, I'm sure it will get longer before it becomes law.

They should just be honest and go for what they want, which is full disarmament. I'm fucking tired of these piecemeal hits, using tragedies and manipulating major police investigations to push their agenda.
At least then, all the fucking morons that vote for the Left in Canada and think their hunting rifles are safe; will see the truth. The Left is trying to vilify and destroy anyone that does not believe their bullshit 'utopian' view. Whether it's gun violence or an overdose epidemic, they attack law abiding citizens, seize firearms and let the epidemic fester, simultaneously destroying whole neighborhoods with junkies at safe injection site's.

LILLEY: Trudeau targets hunters with gun bill changes that assault Canadian heritage

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/gun-control-assault-firearm-1.6661936

 

[Gunz]

That’s how they ban guns, one bite at a time. They bite bigger in Canada because they can. Not as many firearms in circulation, probably a higher percentage of liberal wankers than here, but it’s always more restrictions, never less.

I feel your pain.

 

[Kraut783]

Jeeez....so, what can you have there?

 

[AWP]

Jeeez....so, what can you have there?

Communism, eventually.

 

[Marauder06]

Communism, eventually.

"You can vote your way into socialism, but you'll have to shoot your way out."

 

[Muppet]

"You can vote your way into socialism, but you'll have to shoot your way out."

But, but, but, you can't fight the military. They have tanks, drones, blah, blah, blah. ;)

Laughs in historical partisan...

 

[Marauder06]

But, but, but, you can't fight the military. They have tanks, drones, blah, blah, blah. ;)

Laughs in historical partisan...

I heard that argument for the first time in grad school, from a woman who never served in any military and never handled a weapon before in her life. It was a shocking display of self-assured arrogant ignorance. One example of several during that time.

 

[policemedic]

But, but, but, you can't fight the military. They have tanks, drones, blah, blah, blah. ;)

Laughs in historical partisan...

I heard that argument for the first time in grad school, from a woman who never served in any military and never handled a weapon before in her life. It was a shocking display of self-assured arrogant ignorance. One example of several during that time.

Canadians know better. See also, Mohawks. See also, Oka crisis.

 

[RackMaster]

Jeeez....so, what can you have there?

Sadly after this, we're down to modern bolt actions, pump and lever with 5 round magazine. Or single shots. With the wording they used for magazines on the semi-auto's, the legal opinion of almost all firearms lawyers; it essentially bans them all. There is still time before it becomes law but once it's done, it sets precedent to supercede our Bill of Rights and they can confiscate property without compensation.

The attitudes from the Liberal politicians and government lawyers, when asked questions in committee; is pure arrogance. They know better and don't give a shit about any of us because they'd never get our vote. They do not care about killing an industry.

 

[AWP]

They know better and don't give a shit about any of us because they'd never get our vote. They do not care about killing an industry.

Tyrants destroy whatever they must in order to subjugate people.

 

[Muppet]

Tyrants destroy whatever they must in order to subjugate people.

But, kids safety!

 

[AWP]

But, kids safety!

It's always for the children and that's how you know it is bullshit.

 

[pardus]

Sadly after this, we're down to modern bolt actions, pump and lever with 5 round magazine. Or single shots. With the wording they used for magazines on the semi-auto's, the legal opinion of almost all firearms lawyers; it essentially bans them all. There is still time before it becomes law but once it's done, it sets precedent to supercede our Bill of Rights and they can confiscate property without compensation.

The attitudes from the Liberal politicians and government lawyers, when asked questions in committee; is pure arrogance. They know better and don't give a shit about any of us because they'd never get our vote. They do not care about killing an industry.

So a Lee Enfield for example will be banned? I guess a Ross is OK because it has a 5rd mag correct?

 

[Gunz]

How do they plan to deal with existing listed firearms? Grandfather in or outright confiscation? Buy-backs, LOL? You'll know the end has come when they start going after bows and crossbows.