United States & Gun Control discussion.

[Topkick]

Here is a side you don't often hear in the MSM. I remember when this mass shooting happpened near FT Hood but hadn't heard this woman's account.

You can’t go up against a gun with a salt shaker: Texas Luby’s massacre still stirs debate

25 News Exclusive: Woman who lost both parents in Luby's massacre pushing gun law changes

 

[Gunz]

Here is a side you don't often hear in the MSM. I remember when this mass shooting happpened near FT Hood but hadn't heard this woman's account.

You can’t go up against a gun with a salt shaker: Texas Luby’s massacre still stirs debate

25 News Exclusive: Woman who lost both parents in Luby's massacre pushing gun law changes

Google iced your first link.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Google iced your first link.

I found another link…

You can’t go up against a gun with a salt shaker: Texas Luby’s massacre still stirs debate

 

[Marauder06]

“I had made the stupidest decision of my life,” Hupp has said on numerous occasions, including a 2019 testimony before a congressional committee. “My gun was 100 yards away, dutifully left in my car to obey the law because at that time in the state of Texas, carrying a handgun was illegal.”

Carrying a handgun was illegal... IN TEXAS... in 1991? Either this quote is missing some nuance, is flat-out wrong, or my brain is grossly mis-remembering general gun laws in Southern states from 30 years ago.

 

[Topkick]

Carrying a handgun was illegal... IN TEXAS... in 1991? Either this quote is missing some nuance, is flat-out wrong, or my brain is grossly mis-remembering general gun laws in Southern states from 30 years ago.

Surprisingly, open carry was not allowed until 2015 in Texas. Not sure of the history on their CC permits but Texas wasn't always as gun free as its reputation.

 

[Topkick]

Here is an article that explains Texas handgun laws. Apparently, you couldn't carry a handgun at all until this event triggered the change.

Changes in Texas Gun Culture | Out Of The Blue

 

[Gunz]

Carrying a handgun was illegal... IN TEXAS... in 1991? Either this quote is missing some nuance, is flat-out wrong, or my brain is grossly mis-remembering general gun laws in Southern states from 30 years ago.

The thing about Texas is that BITD lots and lots of folks carried long guns in their vehicles...and regardless of laws packed heat. From what my Lone Star friends tell me, nobody who lived outside the city limits gave two shits about the laws.

It was the same in North Carolina in the 60s and 70s...and into the 80s. Back then concealed carry was illegal but open carry was okay. You could put your handgun in its holster up on the dashboard of your car so it was visible.

Of course I remember fondly being able to buy Schlitz beer at 14 on the pier at Wrightsville Beach. Nobody carded anybody. The South was different then.

 

[Topkick]

The thing about Texas is that BITD lots and lots of folks carried long guns in their vehicle

This is true. I was stationed in Texas in the early 90's and recall seeing a lot of rifles in the window racks of pick-ups. I think that was legal.

 

[Topkick]

It's been legal in Florida.

Here in Ohio, its also been legal for some time but ammo had to be in a separate location. We've been permitted to open carry for years and as of last year, we can now carry concealed without a permit.

 

[BlackSmokeRisinG]

^, ^^: 'America

 

[Kraut783]

This is true. I was stationed in Texas in the early 90's and recall seeing a lot of rifles in the window racks of pick-ups. I think that was legal.

Shotguns and rifles were always legal to carry in Texas...on your person or in your vehicle, mainly due to the hunting culture. You could have a pistol in your car if you were "traveling" which used to be defined as crossing at least two county lines. Now, all has changed....for the best.

 

[Muppet]

Ok, I'll be that guy. The very idea of conceal carry permits is against "shall not be infringed".

The fucking state government making you pay to have the "right" to carry a gun on your person is beyond comprehension.

 

[RackMaster]

This condescending Cunt is what we are fighting.

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[“The Old Man”]

So a federal district court judge has issued a ruling. That Missouri's Second Amendment Preservation Act (SAPA) is un-constitutional.
Here goes the fight again. Not just for us, but for everyone. There are 17 states with some form of 2A sanctuary status.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Visa/Mastercard walk it back…

Visa, Mastercard pause decision to track gun shop purchases

 

[AWP]

Visa/Mastercard walk it back…

Visa, Mastercard pause decision to track gun shop purchases

Visa and Mastercard have said that the reason for the gun shop category was a decision outside of their control. The International Organization for Standardization, better known as ISO, is the group that categorizes merchant codes and Visa and Mastercard were just following their decision. Gun control advocates lobbied for the change to ISO, not to Visa and Mastercard.

An international org, based on Switzerland, published a financial standard that American companies blindly used. This is how conspiracy theories gain traction, though lately they look less and less like "theories"...

 

[Muppet]

Visa/Mastercard walk it back…

Visa, Mastercard pause decision to track gun shop purchases

Probably because of threatened lawsuits. Gentleman and ladies, this is how the fucking federal government will destroy 2A.

Not by 3 letter domestic terrorists taking guns but by companies on the pockets of government, slowly chipping away at plastic, ammo, purchases until guns are obsolete.

Us conspiracy theorists are not so nuts now.

 

[Kraut783]

If I wanted to control guns in the US, I would control primer manufacturing......would take some time....but would ultimately be effective.

 

[Totentanz]

Visa/Mastercard walk it back…

Visa, Mastercard pause decision to track gun shop purchases

... for now.

 

[Muppet]

Accurate