I'm willing to bet it's not the first time something has gone off in her hand ;)
Seriously, no one was hurt, and she'll be extra careful from now on. Ask me how I know :0
She may lose a stripe, but I hope the CS DA doesn't go for an easy kill.
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Seriously, no one was hurt, and she'll be extra careful from now on. Ask me how I know :0
She may lose a stripe, but I hope the CS DA doesn't go for an easy kill.
ThunderHorse
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I was thinking about the DV portion of this sentence...
Army Suspends Former 1st Special Forces Group CO after Arrest on Domestic Violence Charges
Not really related to the current topic, but...
I saw a Major put three rounds into a clearing barrel at the Abu Ghraib DFAC because he couldn't fathom why his pistol kept firing as he kept racking the slide with a full magazine inserted in his weapon.
Nothing better than a SFC PSG ND'ing in the back of a LMTV (Live round) and throwing a fit about his weapon was fucked up, and getting away with it because the supply sgt was a pussy/buddy...
I've had a few ND's on KD ranges when using match rifles, little to tight on the trigger, etc. No excuse, but totally controlled situations and nobody knew...
I've had a few ND's on KD ranges when using match rifles, little to tight on the trigger, etc. No excuse, but totally controlled situations and nobody knew...
Tying into my little story earlier, who knows why you have the funky number of rounds in a Mk19 box?
Anyone?
Following onto that, while there's some aircraft design issues with regards to physical characteristics between sexes that need to be addressed, they also apply to things like the infantry. Even something as simple as a Mk19 has a minimum size of human to be able to operate it properly, as there's a specific distance from butterflies to handles forward that even while mitigated by proper steps for loading/operating.... still, if you don't have fucking long enough arms and not a bunch of bullshit on your kit, you're gonna mash the butterflies and then you're relying on the mechanical safety alone to prevent CHOONK Kapoom.
Anyone?
Following onto that, while there's some aircraft design issues with regards to physical characteristics between sexes that need to be addressed, they also apply to things like the infantry. Even something as simple as a Mk19 has a minimum size of human to be able to operate it properly, as there's a specific distance from butterflies to handles forward that even while mitigated by proper steps for loading/operating.... still, if you don't have fucking long enough arms and not a bunch of bullshit on your kit, you're gonna mash the butterflies and then you're relying on the mechanical safety alone to prevent CHOONK Kapoom.
I love how the article rambles about not releasing the soldier’s name due to OPSEC but cites her colorado springs vicinity, her eastern euro heritage, her unique proficiency in languages, and the active duty group she is speculated to transfer to if she leaves the reserves to go full time, along with said group’s designated AO... smh
Had a female soldier shoot a few 40mm from her MK19 over our FOB in Iraq while she was clearing the weapon from returning from a convoy. I guess that's one way to clear it, just away from the berm and towards all of us.
I can't count the number of NDs we had during my first deployment to Iraq... with 5th Group. And no, not all of them were support guys.
Somewhere I think I have a photo of a clearing barrel outside one of the DFACs on Balad in Iraq... riddled with bullet holes from NDs :)
Somewhere I think I have a photo of a clearing barrel outside one of the DFACs on Balad in Iraq... riddled with bullet holes from NDs :)
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The only ND/AD I saw was a guy at a state funded funded contractor's range, accidently squeeze one off, downrange while the cadre was pulling targets, in between firing rounds. The entire group instantly was taken off (it was instant-- so fast that it went from everyone on the range to just me, and it made my butthole pucker a bit, because it meant a lot of eyes assessing one person still on the range, me) and several hours later they were sent home. It was very professional and super fast. My eyes were probably like saucers but I haven't forgotten it. They got trained somewhere else.
Tarin Kowt, May/ June 2006, an Army patrol coming in the wire had a gun truck dump 3 MK-19 rounds into the TOC. Fortunately they hadn't travelled far enough to arm.
Fall 2008, AF Security Forces had a vehicle-mounted 240 crank a burst into the old Russian control tower in Camp Cunningham. Fortunately, ATC ops had moved to the new tower on the east side. VERY fortunately, the Wing commander and DVs on a tour of the tower had departed about 5 minutes prior to the "accident."
The real moral to all of our ND stories is thus: we should have killed more of our own than the Taliban could ever dream of killing.
Fall 2008, AF Security Forces had a vehicle-mounted 240 crank a burst into the old Russian control tower in Camp Cunningham. Fortunately, ATC ops had moved to the new tower on the east side. VERY fortunately, the Wing commander and DVs on a tour of the tower had departed about 5 minutes prior to the "accident."
The real moral to all of our ND stories is thus: we should have killed more of our own than the Taliban could ever dream of killing.
Kraut783
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Yep, all you need to do is request an open records request for the PD report...
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It’s coming out that her name is Ziva David and she is actually Mossad trained.
Devildoc
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It reminds me of the scene from the movie Airplane! where the guy was talking to his girl about the raid, gave her all the juicy operational details like direction and altitude and target, she asked what time he was leaving and he replied "I can't tell you, it's classified."
Brill
SOF Support
I was at a USG pistol qualification course (required for all civvies to deploy) and REPEATEDLY saw students at the barrel trying to clear Glocks with mags inserted. Ejecting ONE live round was expected but 5...finally they got it after they verbally talked through procedures.
Near the very end of the same course, they had us go hot on the range in pairs as we “shoot, move, communicate“ to get off the X in a simulated vehicle malfunction/stoppage under fire. As we put on our body armor, I wrote “B+“ on some tape and put in on my front. Female proctor smirked & asked “Is that your hopeful grade?” ”No, it’s my blood type.”, I replied. The HR-type students in class looked horrified but the GRS instructors nodded in approval.
My critique after was the USG should have Pistol100 (intro) and Pistol101 (qual) so instructors could focus on those areas respectively. At least their pistol classes culled the idiots for the M4 class.
Jumping to a military deployment, my ATL & I were farmed out to a commando team getting ready to clear a village but by the time we flew up from Salerno to BAF, the place was socked in and we missed the window to arrive before the ODA went out. Our uniforms, appearance, weapons, etc opened doors (e.g. due to all that AND the fact that I was old as fuck, they most likely thought we were with another org) and we got two seats on a C-12 going back to Salerno. As we boarded, the crew chief asked all pax if their weapons were clear: RA dudes nodded but I said no. Both of us removed M4 mag, ejected round, racked the slide a few times, and locked the bolt back. Did same with pistols. The crew chief and RA dudes were shocked. As soon as we got off the aircraft, we loaded up with weapon on safe.
Nice job Dwight, you just failed your evaluation in flirting.
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I mean he's a crypto, so is this reeeeeally surprising?
1st Female Green Beret Faces 'Minor Misdemeanor' Charge for Accidentally Firing Gun, Police Say
Why keep her name secret? If she's in the Guard then I'm guessing she's not on the DASR and not permanently assigned to a unit where that would be required, and SFAS/Q Course isn't a classified course. This perplexes me.
Why keep her name secret? If she's in the Guard then I'm guessing she's not on the DASR and not permanently assigned to a unit where that would be required, and SFAS/Q Course isn't a classified course. This perplexes me.
Don't be perplexed brother...if it was a *he* we wouldn't be hearing about it at all. Plus, it sounds so much "cooler" when they use that lingo....
Brill
SOF Support
If the incident was under civilian jurisdiction, why would USASOC have any involvement in releasing names?
Is she related to a Democrat?
My understanding is that keeping her identity under wraps was to not make her into a celebrity (IE Tim Kennedy) so as to maintain the "quiet professional" ideal SF wants to maintain.
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