Women in Combat Arms/ SOF Discussion

Devildoc said:
Now, I've known guys who full-out beat the shit out if their spouses and others who sold military equipment to pawn shops, and none of those made national media. A ND is messed up, but I think it's only national news because it's the SF chiquita....

https://www.radio.com/connectingvets/news/first-female-green-beret-has-first-accidental-discharge
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I've had 3 NDs in my military career. All were in training, with blanks; two were while I was in ROTC. The first time, I had my finger in the trigger and the safety off during a deliberate attack. We were still so far away from the objective when it happened that the OPFOR didn't even hear it. There were no cadre with us an no one narc'd on me so I kind of got away with that one.

The second time was with an M60. I was given the weapon in the field with no block of instruction how to use it. I was able to figure out how to use it pretty easily, but after charging it, I held the bolt to the rear and squeezed the trigger and eased the bolt forward, because I thought that would make the weapon more safe. Through that experience, and courtesy of an angry NCO, I learned the different between "closed bolt" and "open bolt."

The third time, I was in Infantry Officer Basic and we were getting ready to do the blank-fire portion of the dry-blank-live iteration of squad attack. I was carrying my favorite weapon, the SAW. I couldn't get the bolt back, I had the bipod legs extended and the weapon tilted forward and was trying to manhandle the bolt back. The lane NCOIC was trying to help, he told me to yank it back as hard as I could. I did, and the bolt handle slipped out of my hand... but not before the bolt pulled back just enough to seat a blank round. The bolt then slammed forward and... well... bang.

I never had an ND with a live round, or where I lived. "But for the grace of God" though...
 
the first female Green Beret accidentally discharged a firearm in her home, and the incident is now being investigated by the Colorado Springs Police Department. The incident occurred on Dec. 12....The female Special Forces soldier has never been named publicly due to personal and operational security concerns.
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Ya think Jack Murphy is aware of the fact that CSPD has a blotter which shows all calls responded to, not just arrests?

It wouldn't have her name, but I bet my left nut you could find her home address if it was put on the blotter.
 
Devildoc said:
Now, I've known guys who full-out beat the shit out if their spouses and others who sold military equipment to pawn shops, and none of those made national media. A ND is messed up, but I think it's only national news because it's the SF chiquita....

https://www.radio.com/connectingvets/news/first-female-green-beret-has-first-accidental-discharge
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I had one ND in my career, it was in training and with blanks. The only cadre there at the time were MSIV cadets. We were tired as shit and pulling security as the dude who was the PL at the time was prepping their OPORD. It was not the worst ND I ever witnessed or had to deal with in training. But the only one I was responsible for. I received a negative spot report.

When I was at Benning there was some Armor LT in another Troop that had an ND in his house. When police arrived they also found a belt of 7.62. I have no idea how that happened, we never saved small arms at AOBC when I was there. He was arrested and dismissed from the Army faster than the Infantry LT who got three DUIs at IOBC during the same time.
 
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I have not had one, yet. I say "yet" because I'm told that there are 2 types shooters if you shoot long enough: those who've had a ND, and those who haven't had one yet.

I was doing a state-wide LE SWAT event and a guy on our team had a ND with a M4, in the back of a van, shot himself in the foot. Otherwise never had one/saw one in the military.

I think this story would be a non-story if it was someone other than the first female Green Beret.
 
Kraut783 said:
Bagram 2002...a member of red team had a AD with a M203...just missed the PX hut....which was right next to our compound.

If your gonna do a AD...go big!
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Is this the one that went into the soft drink pallet just outside of the Dragon DFAC?
 
Kraut783 said:
Bagram 2002...a member of red team had a AD with a M203...just missed the PX hut....which was right next to our compound.

If your gonna do a AD...go big!
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Pfft.

Try Mk19 ND over an UN compound.

ETA:
  1. No, it was not me.
  2. Beautiful thing was how Mk19 rounds don't really do anything in flight, unlike hearing the zip of near miss rifle rounds... They only knew they got shot "at" by the explosion that was on the OTHER side from where it was fired from.
  3. This wasn't the worst one, believe it or not. The worse ND was a 5 meter away bounce from a Mk19 that was a direct hit to the entire MSS' shower system water feed. Didn't even actually go off, just straight fucking took out the pipe with an accidental direct hit that didn't have round det due to min arming distance. Yay to munitions engineers safety designs.
 
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