Women in Combat Arms/ SOF Discussion

I have a stupid question (and my son is not around to ask him). I just saw a post on the Camp Pendleton FB page
First female Marine students arrive at SOI-W
The first female Marine students to check in to the School of Infantry – West, unload from the buses and begin their check in process on Camp Pendleton, Calif., March 6, 2018. This marks the first male-female integrated Marine Combat Training company on the West Coast

Don't all Marines do MCT after boot camp? This is NOT ITB correct? This is specific males and females at MCT together for the first time?

Pics here: First female Marine students arrive at SOI-W
 
I have a stupid question (and my son is not around to ask him). I just saw a post on the Camp Pendleton FB page


Don't all Marines do MCT after boot camp? This is NOT ITB correct? This is specific males and females at MCT together for the first time?

Pics here: First female Marine students arrive at SOI-W
I remember reading about this. Part of intigrating the West Coast with female Marines do that they are not such a culture shock when the guys get into the fleet.

Female Marines enter Combat Training Battalion at Camp Pendleton for first time in history of base – Orange County Register
 
I think some folks in my Marine parents group are thinking that this is the ITB but as I read it as MCT, which all female Marines do anyway? This experiment, oh I mean class , is just an integrated group and of course at SOI West where women formerly all went to SOI East? The article you post @Ooh-Rah describes "modification" of housing etc to accommodate females. So I am guessing the female Marines will have living quarters separate from the males?
As I stated, some of the parents in the parents chat were freaking out over this. My son graduated boot camp with 2 platoons of women. On family day, I got a good look at those ladies. Do. Not Mess. ;-)
 
Why don’t you send me a pic of what you are talking about, I’ll see if I can help!

:p:ROFLMAO:

Since It's late in the game, and the mess is behind us.... not to include Ooh-Rah's corpse, which I would have had to help dispose of in the desert, bringing my own shovel, Moose Drool, tape measure (for depth) and visqueen duct tape and lime... I can now admit that this is one of the most hilarious suspensions of SA, EVER. @Ooh-Rah - be glad The Large Ranger is a secure (if a bit psychotic) individual. I will make sure he's well fed to appease him when next he rolls through the AO. You get to figure out how to appease the Wife of Ranger.... she's good people, and a good shot.
 
I am just happy it wasn't me who put my foot--er, keyboard--in my mouth for once.... @Ooh-Rah is a good example, forever to be marked as "Remember that one guy who..." :)
 

Seems like a petty and small minded article actually. Maybe all that picture was trying to do is reinforce is a positive image of female in the military. And that’s a good thing that needs more work on. I’m not sure how many profession thinks it’s okay to post pictures of their female colleagues in uniform to be commented on and rated. Hardly decent or honorable activity that presents the profession in a good light. So they need to send more messages with a stamp of authority and lead by example. If anything, it’s a reflection of a male dominated culture and not about women getting special treatment.
 
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The good Colonel wouldn't normally be within 15 klicks of maggoty SOI arrivals. It's all politics now and there's damn little anybody can do about it.

I'd like to have been a fly on the wall of the Colonel's office when he got that directive: "You WILL greet the female SOI arrivals and shake their hands and you WILL act like you are happy about it..."

Politics indeed. And it's a fucking shame too. The degeneration of combat effectiveness because some people need to feel good about themselves. Then we have the people with zero klicks on their back and feet that are all too ready to proffer asinine opinions about Girl Power.
 
Seems like a petty and small minded article actually. Maybe all that picture was trying to do is reinforce is a positive image of female in the military. And that’s a good thing that needs more work on. I’m not sure how many profession thinks it’s okay to post pictures of their female colleagues in uniform to be commented on and rated. Hardly decent or honorable activity that presents the profession in a good light. So they need to send more messages with a stamp of authority and lead by example. If anything, it’s a reflection of a male dominated culture and not about women getting special treatment.

You have no idea what you are talking about, not in this context.
 
Seems like a petty and small minded article actually. Maybe all that picture was trying to do is reinforce is a positive image of female in the military. And that’s a good thing that needs more work on. I’m not sure how many profession thinks it’s okay to post pictures of their female colleagues in uniform to be commented on and rated. Hardly decent or honorable activity that presents the profession in a good light. So they need to send more messages with a stamp of authority and lead by example. If anything, it’s a reflection of a male dominated culture and not about women getting special treatment.
The Colonel never shook my hand until I graduated VMI, I didn't know who the Brigade Commander even was until half way through OBC...they have better stuff to do than shake hands of privates getting off a bus.
 
Seems like a petty and small minded article actually. Maybe all that picture was trying to do is reinforce is a positive image of female in the military. And that’s a good thing that needs more work on. I’m not sure how many profession thinks it’s okay to post pictures of their female colleagues in uniform to be commented on and rated. Hardly decent or honorable activity that presents the profession in a good light. So they need to send more messages with a stamp of authority and lead by example. If anything, it’s a reflection of a male dominated culture and not about women getting special treatment.

I’m sorry, but you just don’t understand the issues here. This may be one of those things that people who haven’t served just won’t get.
 
Guys -

Let's stop the dog-pile here please. I'm not deleting any posts because sometimes the message needs to be reenforced, but I think the point has been made. @Serenity , I hope you understand it. DO NOT reply in this thread that you do or do not...just go about your business.
 
Yeah, political bullshit.

Day 1 of 11B OSUT, we met the BN commander and his boss too. Met as in the entire company in the auditorium/classroom got briefed on commander's intent, expectations, then the party began. That was the only time we ever saw either of them other than in absolute passing.
 
Has anybody seen anything about quotas for female combat arms integration? I know a few years back a lady Cal. democrat was demanding 20%...plus new lighter designs and manufacture of personal protective gear like plate carriers etc specifically for women?
 
Has anybody seen anything about quotas for female combat arms integration? I know a few years back a lady Cal. democrat was demanding 20%...plus new lighter designs and manufacture of personal protective gear like plate carriers etc specifically for women?

The last I read, The Corps does not have a quota (published anyway) but the Commandant has said the he wants the female population of USMC to be minimum 10%.

I would have guessed it was Well over that number already.
 
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