ThunderHorse
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I like how this worked...no pomp and circumstance, just acknowledgement. Seems Marine-like.
Women in Combat Arms/ SOF Discussion
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Kraut783
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Interesting...a great accomplishment, I wish her luck with the Q course.
This isn't the first time a woman got credit for Selection though, right?
J.
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Congratulations to that soldier, and the rest who were selected.
But,
If the goal is integration and equality, then why is this news?
But,
If the goal is integration and equality, then why is this news?
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Is this the first part of Selection or a pre screening or what?
We usually mention the first of everything else; I think acknowledging the "firsts" are pretty important for showing that things can be equal and integrated.
No need to go all Ranger and come up with the "first lesbian national guard mother" or "first black female officer who wears glasses" each time though.
As far as I know. SFAS is the totality of the "selection" process.
She'd still have to go through SFQC to be "qualified".
Anonymous? Maybe to you and others, but I figured anyone smart enough to know the command climate that still exists, would understand.
I can tell you first hand that any RI, or those within the Regiment, that gets ID'd, will get the kiss of death if their names are published, regarding their careers. Anything I've written within this thread referencing the topic and individuals cited, regarding the same, is firsthand knowledge from those I know and trust and will stand behind it 100%.
Katie Wilder, was the only female so far to attend the U.S. Army Special Forces Qualification Course and be granted SF certification. Her SFQC class graduated in Aug of 1980. It was granted under protest and she was never assigned to a team or served on an ODA.
Just A and S.
She now has to pass the "Q" course and become a resident of Pineland, without being evicted..........
J.
Verified Military
I agree, it is a stepping stone that should be recognized. It just comes off as a PAO thing in order to tell future female candidates “you can do it too” which is fair and makes sense. I give the Army credit on being vague and to the point on this one. My only issue is that I can totally see this still being a story every single time.
At what point is it going to stop being
“Female (Insert Title) did X thing”
and start being
“Marines/Soldiers do X thing”
One promotes team mindset, and the other alienates the success and failure of one very small group and puts them on display for everyone to see.
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It pretty much already has. You don't hear much about the future female Rangers.
The Marines don't really talk about it anyway.
People just assume anything "special" the Air Force has to offer already has women in it.
Future news will be if this gal earns a Green Beret and/or if a woman earns a SEAL Trident.
J.
Verified Military
It is articles like these that don’t inspire me with confidence. These have been pumped out over the last two years, you can’t walk into an MCX without one of the “Times” papers talking about females as if they are something other than a Marine. I do think it is slowing down, and in no way do I blame the women for the publicity they are getting but at this point I feel like I’m watching the DOD jump up and down yelling “HEY! LOOK! WE GOT WOMEN, SEE! LOOK HERE!”
The Marines Didn’t Think Women Belonged in the Infantry. She’s Proving Them Wrong.
One of the First Women in the Infantry Will Be Discharged From the Marines
The Marines Didn’t Think Women Belonged in the Infantry. She’s Proving Them Wrong.
One of the First Women in the Infantry Will Be Discharged From the Marines
I kinda made a joke about it, but I remember it being news that the "first enlisted Female from the National Guard" completed Ranger School this summer. Not big news, but still something there was press about.
Fully agree though that the 1st woman to earn a Green Beret/Trident/other SOF identification will be news.
There is at least one woman wearing a tan beret and Scroll. Not sure what other SOF ID you would mean, unless you don't count Rangers as SOF...
Rangers absolutely count.
I'm referring to SOF units that haven't yet had females graduate/qualify.
The first female Raider, Pj, etc is important news.
I think when they start reaching for specifics (first officer/enlisted/guard/reservist) it becomes a bit excessive.
Devildoc
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Gotcha.
The hair on the first female PJ better be epic...lol
I am encouraging this lass to apply....
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Unless you are a vetted SF member of this board, what you “heard” is a non factor. Stay in your lane.
Heard from? Where?
Accusations like that are usually provided with information, especially from unvetted members.
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