Your 2024 Presidential Election Thread

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BlackSmokeRisinG said:
Imagine some of those states that pushed for their electoral college votes to go for the popular vote winner, even of another candidate won the state. If those laws actually passed...They'd be shitting bricks right now. 🤣

The Dems just tried to get rid of the filibuster not too long ago and they already lost the majority... FFS...
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Donald needs to walk in to the inauguration like Ric Flair whooing.
 
My city voted to create a city charter banning the sales of recreational Marijuana in city limits, while also voting for allowing medicinal Marijuana businesses to apply for a recreational license.

Truly living up to this skit.
 
The election is that people voted (cackles) and the people voted because there was an election. Now, you didn't have to fill out a ballot to vote (cackles), but you voted and that is voting. For an election. If you're sad about the results, that makes you sad and sometimes global warming and the climate are Nazis, or are they, and we can't have Nazis in this country because this is a democracy and our dishwashers are yellow.

(Cackles)

And that's why you need to vote tomorrow. For the children.
 
Wow, I did not see that coming. Some of the more liberal voices I follow on Twitter are now leaning into the narrative that “America just proves it’s not ready for a female Black president,” and I have to admit, I find that a bit disappointing. In my view, the problem isn’t that America wasn’t ready for a female Black president, but rather that it wasn’t ready for that specific candidate.

I vividly remember the conversations after Biden stepped down, about who should be the nominee and why many felt she shouldn’t be. Yet, a week later, she was the choice. There was no real discussion, no debate, no vote—just an announcement. I’ve always believed that Biden only agreed to step down with the condition that she would be the nominee. The DNC has itself to blame for this; she never should have been chosen as VP in the first place.
 
That whole allowing the DoD to get involved during civil unrest might come back to bite them in the ass come Inauguration Day. Be very careful what any radicals wish for, just saying.
 
Ooh-Rah said:
Wow, I did not see that coming. Some of the more liberal voices I follow on Twitter are now leaning into the narrative that “America just proves it’s not ready for a female Black president,” and I have to admit, I find that a bit disappointing. In my view, the problem isn’t that America wasn’t ready for a female Black president, but rather that it wasn’t ready for that specific candidate.

I vividly remember the conversations after Biden stepped down, about who should be the nominee and why many felt she shouldn’t be. Yet, a week later, she was the choice. There was no real discussion, no debate, no vote—just an announcement. I’ve always believed that Biden only agreed to step down with the condition that she would be the nominee. The DNC has itself to blame for this; she never should have been chosen as VP in the first place.
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I don't think that they have the mental comprehension to understand fully that it's nothing to do with being female or black. It has everything to do with whom it is and not the gender.

I am very disappointed in these people who refuse to acknowledge that it's never been a race or gender thing. It's the PERSON and not their bodily make and model. That's on them for the lack of critical thinking.
 
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Waiting for data, but I wouldn't be suprised if that played a factor.

I think there are segments of the independent voter population and older Dem populations that will not vote for a woman presidential candidate.

I also think she was a bad candidate who ran a bad campaign.

While Race/gender might be a factor, saying she lost because of that is like saying Trump lost my state because of RFK jr; sure it's some points, but it doesn't change the gap.
 
Ooh-Rah said:
Wow, I did not see that coming. Some of the more liberal voices I follow on Twitter are now leaning into the narrative that “America just proves it’s not ready for a female Black president,” and I have to admit, I find that a bit disappointing. In my view, the problem isn’t that America wasn’t ready for a female Black president, but rather that it wasn’t ready for that specific candidate.

I vividly remember the conversations after Biden stepped down, about who should be the nominee and why many felt she shouldn’t be. Yet, a week later, she was the choice. There was no real discussion, no debate, no vote—just an announcement. I’ve always believed that Biden only agreed to step down with the condition that she would be the nominee. The DNC has itself to blame for this; she never should have been chosen as VP in the first place.
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The vast amounts of copium being consumed by the left is breathtaking. Instead of taking some time for introspection, they are doubling down on the same shit that cost this this election.

On top of grossly mismanaging the wars, the economy, the border, and everything else that matters to voters, they managed to field a candidate that was less popular that Hillary Clinton **and** Joe Biden.

The only way Kamala Harris gets to be president is if Biden steps down before the end of his term. I wouldn't rule that out, but as pissed as he and his family are about the way he got booted out of the campaign, it doesn't seem likely. Spite abounds.
 
Crawled into bed around 2:30, up at 7:30, looking at exit polling and some of the data, and also looking at social media. Hey, my first degree was poli sci, it's what I do.

The left just cannot comprehend how they lost. They are pointing fingers at everyone but themselves (including the Russians for those phony bomb threats); after all, they DID put up the perfect candidate. Also in the lack of any self-awareness or insight, they a) continue to insult the GOP/right, and b) are calling for Biden to do any number of preposterous and illegal things over the next two months. Naturally they are hurting, but they cannot see it's largely due this very thing why they lost, and they just cannot understand it.

Winning the EC, popular vote (!), senate, and especially so quickly, and likely house, is not 'just' a win, that is a mandate.

Exit polling and data shows Trump nearly doubled his Latino vote from 2020, his Latina vote went up, and black men and women went up. The one area that he didn't move the needle much was young white women, which was foreseeable. ALL of those areas are also much stronger than 2016. So much for the racist narrative.

To quote that somewhat-brilliant-but-freaking-nuts analyst and advisor James Carville, "it's the economy, stupid." That was the number one driver for Trump, followed by the border/illegal immigrations (even among Latinos and immigrants).

Trump's campaign strategy was just short of brilliant, reminded me a little of W's 2000 campaign. His ground game, which was almost non-existent in 2020, was incredibly fantastic. The state and local GOP did an amazing job, especially with early voting and vote harvesting. Vance (or whoever) will have to do that in 2028, but more and harder. The strategy for cracking the Blue Wall was wonderful gamesmanship, targeting the rural and suburban areas which had low-propensity voters.

It did not hurt that Harris underperformed in every area that Biden won in 2020. Even the blue areas.

Most polling was pretty accurate, except for the weird outliers (looking at you Seltzer in Iowa!).

I imagine the alphabet agencies are busy 24/7 deleting and shredding shit they have accumulated over the past 4 years, and the Swamp is shittin' kittins this morning. Next 70-something days are going to be interesting.
 
This was a race won on the issues. Trump is more of a personality and an executor, he gets personal because people have been getting personal with him his whole career. The best thing the campaign and the RNC did was select Vance. Just like they previously did with Pence. They selected a VP who could speak to the issues eloquently and connect with the common American. I would go so far as to say Vance has the same Chutzpah that Bill Clinton did. Watch Clinton work a room, it is miraculous.

Issues for Americans
  • It's the economy stupid, the administration has been spinning a shitty economy for three years and trying to tell you its amazing.
  • Border Security, the administration has failed to do their job, they have all the power they need to fix this.
  • Keep men out of women's sports, how is this even a controversial issue?
  • Demonization, the Democrats have been demonizing Republicans and people who don't align with their anti-American agenda for 8 years.
This had nothing to do with Race. Kamala was the worst AG in the history of California. She put innocent men in prison. Tim Walz? Well, that dude knows less about Football than my puppy does.

This was a race won and lost on the issues. And again, the people melting are Democrats. The people who will kill off their friendships are the Democrats.

So, for those who actually voted for their daughter or their nieces. If you voted Republican, that's who will actually have policies protecting them. Democrats think that a woman's right to abort their child after birth is a straight up campaign issue for them.

ETA: Democrats keep saying he needs to have a unity message, why does he need that? Winning the Presidency, flipping the Senate, and retaining the House is a Mandate. However, caution here my fellow Americans. (Back when I voted for Obama) Obama won a mandate and did nothing with his agenda. He did lay a foundation of divisiveness that has plagued us since though.

ETA2: There are counties in Texas that voted Democrat in every election since the 1890s and they went Trump, interesting stuff.
 
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