Your 2024 Presidential Election Thread
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The election is that people voted (cackles) and the people voted because there was an election. Now, you didn't have to fill out a ballot to vote (cackles), but you voted and that is voting. For an election. If you're sad about the results, that makes you sad and sometimes global warming and the climate are Nazis, or are they, and we can't have Nazis in this country because this is a democracy and our dishwashers are yellow.
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And that's why you need to vote tomorrow. For the children.
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And that's why you need to vote tomorrow. For the children.
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Wow, I did not see that coming. Some of the more liberal voices I follow on Twitter are now leaning into the narrative that “America just proves it’s not ready for a female Black president,” and I have to admit, I find that a bit disappointing. In my view, the problem isn’t that America wasn’t ready for a female Black president, but rather that it wasn’t ready for that specific candidate.
I vividly remember the conversations after Biden stepped down, about who should be the nominee and why many felt she shouldn’t be. Yet, a week later, she was the choice. There was no real discussion, no debate, no vote—just an announcement. I’ve always believed that Biden only agreed to step down with the condition that she would be the nominee. The DNC has itself to blame for this; she never should have been chosen as VP in the first place.
I vividly remember the conversations after Biden stepped down, about who should be the nominee and why many felt she shouldn’t be. Yet, a week later, she was the choice. There was no real discussion, no debate, no vote—just an announcement. I’ve always believed that Biden only agreed to step down with the condition that she would be the nominee. The DNC has itself to blame for this; she never should have been chosen as VP in the first place.
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That whole allowing the DoD to get involved during civil unrest might come back to bite them in the ass come Inauguration Day. Be very careful what any radicals wish for, just saying.
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I don't think that they have the mental comprehension to understand fully that it's nothing to do with being female or black. It has everything to do with whom it is and not the gender.
I am very disappointed in these people who refuse to acknowledge that it's never been a race or gender thing. It's the PERSON and not their bodily make and model. That's on them for the lack of critical thinking.
Waiting for data, but I wouldn't be suprised if that played a factor.
I think there are segments of the independent voter population and older Dem populations that will not vote for a woman presidential candidate.
I also think she was a bad candidate who ran a bad campaign.
While Race/gender might be a factor, saying she lost because of that is like saying Trump lost my state because of RFK jr; sure it's some points, but it doesn't change the gap.
The vast amounts of copium being consumed by the left is breathtaking. Instead of taking some time for introspection, they are doubling down on the same shit that cost this this election.
On top of grossly mismanaging the wars, the economy, the border, and everything else that matters to voters, they managed to field a candidate that was less popular that Hillary Clinton **and** Joe Biden.
The only way Kamala Harris gets to be president is if Biden steps down before the end of his term. I wouldn't rule that out, but as pissed as he and his family are about the way he got booted out of the campaign, it doesn't seem likely. Spite abounds.
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If you have Facebook and like to lurk at the meltdowns, the group Donald Trump Jail Tracker is having epic tantrums.
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Crawled into bed around 2:30, up at 7:30, looking at exit polling and some of the data, and also looking at social media. Hey, my first degree was poli sci, it's what I do.
The left just cannot comprehend how they lost. They are pointing fingers at everyone but themselves (including the Russians for those phony bomb threats); after all, they DID put up the perfect candidate. Also in the lack of any self-awareness or insight, they a) continue to insult the GOP/right, and b) are calling for Biden to do any number of preposterous and illegal things over the next two months. Naturally they are hurting, but they cannot see it's largely due this very thing why they lost, and they just cannot understand it.
Winning the EC, popular vote (!), senate, and especially so quickly, and likely house, is not 'just' a win, that is a mandate.
Exit polling and data shows Trump nearly doubled his Latino vote from 2020, his Latina vote went up, and black men and women went up. The one area that he didn't move the needle much was young white women, which was foreseeable. ALL of those areas are also much stronger than 2016. So much for the racist narrative.
To quote that somewhat-brilliant-but-freaking-nuts analyst and advisor James Carville, "it's the economy, stupid." That was the number one driver for Trump, followed by the border/illegal immigrations (even among Latinos and immigrants).
Trump's campaign strategy was just short of brilliant, reminded me a little of W's 2000 campaign. His ground game, which was almost non-existent in 2020, was incredibly fantastic. The state and local GOP did an amazing job, especially with early voting and vote harvesting. Vance (or whoever) will have to do that in 2028, but more and harder. The strategy for cracking the Blue Wall was wonderful gamesmanship, targeting the rural and suburban areas which had low-propensity voters.
It did not hurt that Harris underperformed in every area that Biden won in 2020. Even the blue areas.
Most polling was pretty accurate, except for the weird outliers (looking at you Seltzer in Iowa!).
I imagine the alphabet agencies are busy 24/7 deleting and shredding shit they have accumulated over the past 4 years, and the Swamp is shittin' kittins this morning. Next 70-something days are going to be interesting.
The left just cannot comprehend how they lost. They are pointing fingers at everyone but themselves (including the Russians for those phony bomb threats); after all, they DID put up the perfect candidate. Also in the lack of any self-awareness or insight, they a) continue to insult the GOP/right, and b) are calling for Biden to do any number of preposterous and illegal things over the next two months. Naturally they are hurting, but they cannot see it's largely due this very thing why they lost, and they just cannot understand it.
Winning the EC, popular vote (!), senate, and especially so quickly, and likely house, is not 'just' a win, that is a mandate.
Exit polling and data shows Trump nearly doubled his Latino vote from 2020, his Latina vote went up, and black men and women went up. The one area that he didn't move the needle much was young white women, which was foreseeable. ALL of those areas are also much stronger than 2016. So much for the racist narrative.
To quote that somewhat-brilliant-but-freaking-nuts analyst and advisor James Carville, "it's the economy, stupid." That was the number one driver for Trump, followed by the border/illegal immigrations (even among Latinos and immigrants).
Trump's campaign strategy was just short of brilliant, reminded me a little of W's 2000 campaign. His ground game, which was almost non-existent in 2020, was incredibly fantastic. The state and local GOP did an amazing job, especially with early voting and vote harvesting. Vance (or whoever) will have to do that in 2028, but more and harder. The strategy for cracking the Blue Wall was wonderful gamesmanship, targeting the rural and suburban areas which had low-propensity voters.
It did not hurt that Harris underperformed in every area that Biden won in 2020. Even the blue areas.
Most polling was pretty accurate, except for the weird outliers (looking at you Seltzer in Iowa!).
I imagine the alphabet agencies are busy 24/7 deleting and shredding shit they have accumulated over the past 4 years, and the Swamp is shittin' kittins this morning. Next 70-something days are going to be interesting.
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This was a race won on the issues. Trump is more of a personality and an executor, he gets personal because people have been getting personal with him his whole career. The best thing the campaign and the RNC did was select Vance. Just like they previously did with Pence. They selected a VP who could speak to the issues eloquently and connect with the common American. I would go so far as to say Vance has the same Chutzpah that Bill Clinton did. Watch Clinton work a room, it is miraculous.
Issues for Americans
This was a race won and lost on the issues. And again, the people melting are Democrats. The people who will kill off their friendships are the Democrats.
So, for those who actually voted for their daughter or their nieces. If you voted Republican, that's who will actually have policies protecting them. Democrats think that a woman's right to abort their child after birth is a straight up campaign issue for them.
ETA: Democrats keep saying he needs to have a unity message, why does he need that? Winning the Presidency, flipping the Senate, and retaining the House is a Mandate. However, caution here my fellow Americans. (Back when I voted for Obama) Obama won a mandate and did nothing with his agenda. He did lay a foundation of divisiveness that has plagued us since though.
ETA2: There are counties in Texas that voted Democrat in every election since the 1890s and they went Trump, interesting stuff.
Issues for Americans
- It's the economy stupid, the administration has been spinning a shitty economy for three years and trying to tell you its amazing.
- Border Security, the administration has failed to do their job, they have all the power they need to fix this.
- Keep men out of women's sports, how is this even a controversial issue?
- Demonization, the Democrats have been demonizing Republicans and people who don't align with their anti-American agenda for 8 years.
This was a race won and lost on the issues. And again, the people melting are Democrats. The people who will kill off their friendships are the Democrats.
So, for those who actually voted for their daughter or their nieces. If you voted Republican, that's who will actually have policies protecting them. Democrats think that a woman's right to abort their child after birth is a straight up campaign issue for them.
ETA: Democrats keep saying he needs to have a unity message, why does he need that? Winning the Presidency, flipping the Senate, and retaining the House is a Mandate. However, caution here my fellow Americans. (Back when I voted for Obama) Obama won a mandate and did nothing with his agenda. He did lay a foundation of divisiveness that has plagued us since though.
ETA2: There are counties in Texas that voted Democrat in every election since the 1890s and they went Trump, interesting stuff.
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So people claim January 6th was an attempted coup. Ok, if we accept that. Then you have to also accept an actual Palace coup occurred when the DNC pulled Biden off the ticket and threatened to 25th him to force him to withdraw and then anointed Kamala as his successor.
No one voted for Kamala until the general election, no one cared for her. This was all "legal" but also against the spirit of the law. But I suppose the DNC thought that Jill was already a better president than Kamala could ever become which is why they didn't attempt to 25th him. They got him off the ticket, but they couldn't get him err her to resign in the Summer.
ETA: WAIT, Kamala didn't have a concession speech? Not even a fiery speech of defiance like Trump or Hillary? She's not speaking until 6PMET tonight?
No one voted for Kamala until the general election, no one cared for her. This was all "legal" but also against the spirit of the law. But I suppose the DNC thought that Jill was already a better president than Kamala could ever become which is why they didn't attempt to 25th him. They got him off the ticket, but they couldn't get him err her to resign in the Summer.
ETA: WAIT, Kamala didn't have a concession speech? Not even a fiery speech of defiance like Trump or Hillary? She's not speaking until 6PMET tonight?
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I agree with you. No one voted for kamala in the primary. I didn’t want to be forced to vote for her in the general. I don’t like the outcome of another Trump presidency, but I also didn’t want a Kamala presidency either.
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I love how Democrats are saying people without degrees is why Trump won, no, Trump won because he won back people he had in his 2016 election. But lost in 2020. Hispanics, Blacks, Suburban White Women. He won because educated people voted for him.
If we're going to blame poor and uneducated people for who wins elections, what about all of uneducated people who vote for the Democrats? They don't get it. Demonization of the electorate, the further push to the left, the more radical the Democrats are...they will hurt themselves.
If we're going to blame poor and uneducated people for who wins elections, what about all of uneducated people who vote for the Democrats? They don't get it. Demonization of the electorate, the further push to the left, the more radical the Democrats are...they will hurt themselves.
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Bolded/italicized/underlined, should be a banner pulled by a plane and shouted from the rooftops.
They are incapable of an objective analysis. Trump is so racist he captured almost twice the amount of Latinos he had in 2020, about half that in Latinas, black me, slightly less with black women, almost twice as many who identify as Middle Eastern-American, and did really well with Jews.
Oh, and he had the most diverse cabinet in 2016, and look who have been standing at his side: an Indian man, half-Indian woman, black men, and a lot of women.
Yeah, racist my ass.
The left cannot see how or why anything they want is destructive, and they have zero ownership that by calling half of America "deplorable Nazi racist fascist garbage" is bad.
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The way I put this, simply, is...
This was a race between an asshole and incompetence.
We can deal with an asshole, but we're done with incompetence.
