Your 2024 Presidential Election Thread

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So people claim January 6th was an attempted coup. Ok, if we accept that. Then you have to also accept an actual Palace coup occurred when the DNC pulled Biden off the ticket and threatened to 25th him to force him to withdraw and then anointed Kamala as his successor.

No one voted for Kamala until the general election, no one cared for her. This was all "legal" but also against the spirit of the law. But I suppose the DNC thought that Jill was already a better president than Kamala could ever become which is why they didn't attempt to 25th him. They got him off the ticket, but they couldn't get him err her to resign in the Summer.

ETA: WAIT, Kamala didn't have a concession speech? Not even a fiery speech of defiance like Trump or Hillary? She's not speaking until 6PMET tonight?
 
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So people claim January 6th was an attempted coup. Ok, if we accept that. Then you have to also accept an actual Palace coup occurred when the DNC pulled Biden off the ticket and threatened to 25th him to force him to withdraw and then anointed Kamala as his successor.

No one voted for Kamala until the general election, no one cared for her. This was all "legal" but also against the spirit of the law. But I suppose the DNC thought that Jill was already a better president than Kamala could ever become which is why they didn't attempt to 25th him. They got him off the ticket, but they couldn't get him err her to resign in the Summer.

ETA: WAIT, Kamala didn't have a concession speech? Not even a fiery speech of defiance like Trump or Hillary? She's not speaking until 6PMET tonight?
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I agree with you. No one voted for kamala in the primary. I didn’t want to be forced to vote for her in the general. I don’t like the outcome of another Trump presidency, but I also didn’t want a Kamala presidency either.
 
I love how Democrats are saying people without degrees is why Trump won, no, Trump won because he won back people he had in his 2016 election. But lost in 2020. Hispanics, Blacks, Suburban White Women. He won because educated people voted for him.

If we're going to blame poor and uneducated people for who wins elections, what about all of uneducated people who vote for the Democrats? They don't get it. Demonization of the electorate, the further push to the left, the more radical the Democrats are...they will hurt themselves.
 
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I love how Democrats are saying people without degrees is why Trump won, no, Trump won because he won back people he had in his 2016 election. But lost in 2020. Hispanics, Blacks, Suburban White Women. He won because educated people voted for him.

If we're going to blame poor and uneducated people for who wins elections, what about all of uneducated people who vote for the Democrats? They don't get it. Demonization of the electorate, the further push to the left, the more radical the Democrats are...they will hurt themselves.
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Bolded/italicized/underlined, should be a banner pulled by a plane and shouted from the rooftops.

They are incapable of an objective analysis. Trump is so racist he captured almost twice the amount of Latinos he had in 2020, about half that in Latinas, black me, slightly less with black women, almost twice as many who identify as Middle Eastern-American, and did really well with Jews.

Oh, and he had the most diverse cabinet in 2016, and look who have been standing at his side: an Indian man, half-Indian woman, black men, and a lot of women.

Yeah, racist my ass.

The left cannot see how or why anything they want is destructive, and they have zero ownership that by calling half of America "deplorable Nazi racist fascist garbage" is bad.
 
Devildoc said:
Bolded/italicized/underlined, should be a banner pulled by a plane and shouted from the rooftops.

They are incapable of an objective analysis. Trump is so racist he captured almost twice the amount of Latinos he had in 2020, about half that in Latinas, black me, slightly less with black women, almost twice as many who identify as Middle Eastern-American, and did really well with Jews.

Oh, and he had the most diverse cabinet in 2016, and look who have been standing at his side: an Indian man, half-Indian woman, black men, and a lot of women.

Yeah, racist my ass.

The left cannot see how or why anything they want is destructive, and they have zero ownership that by calling half of America "deplorable Nazi racist fascist garbage" is bad.
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The way I put this, simply, is...
This was a race between an asshole and incompetence.

We can deal with an asshole, but we're done with incompetence.
 
ThunderHorse said:
I love how Democrats are saying people without degrees is why Trump won, no, Trump won because he won back people he had in his 2016 election. But lost in 2020. Hispanics, Blacks, Suburban White Women. He won because educated people voted for him.

If we're going to blame poor and uneducated people for who wins elections, what about all of uneducated people who vote for the Democrats? They don't get it. Demonization of the electorate, the further push to the left, the more radical the Democrats are...they will hurt themselves.
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Having a dgree doesn't make one common sense smart. Anyways, insults is what those without a position use.

Dems, no position = personal attacks.
 
I was wrong AF.

I thought Trump would continue to talk about himself and alienate normal voters, he would be opposed in Senate and House then NOTHING would get done, and he wouldn't be able to win after being convicted.

Wrong on all counts. Hate to say it, bit I think those attempts really changed him for the better. Oh, and still more combat experience than Tim Walz.
 
So, perhaps I'm biased, but I haven't watched cable news in ages. I've flipped through tons of clips on CNN and MSNBC. Then I've been watching Fox today. The only network with a relatively accurate portrayal of the election has been Fox. People will forget, but Fox wasn't exactly friendly to Trump when he was president. It wasn't Pravda (like CNN and MSNBC have been for Biden and now Kamala), it just slanted conservative.

Want decent news, don't live in the silo and find opposite points of view.
 
ThunderHorse said:
So, perhaps I'm biased, but I haven't watched cable news in ages. I've flipped through tons of clips on CNN and MSNBC. Then I've been watching Fox today. The only network with a relatively accurate portrayal of the election has been Fox. People will forget, but Fox wasn't exactly friendly to Trump when he was president. It wasn't Pravda (like CNN and MSNBC have been for Biden and now Kamala), it just slanted conservative.

Want decent news, don't live in the silo and find opposite points of view.
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My son brought down his TV, so we had two channels simultaneously, Fox and MSNBC (muted, I fucking hate them). But MSNBC decision desk is usually pretty quick in making calls, and were calling states up to 30 minutes faster than Fox.

That was the first time I have seen any TV news in maybe 3 years. I get all online or streamed now.
 
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