Your 2024 Presidential Election Thread

Of all the wild narratives we have seen in this never ending carousel of sadness we call the political cycle, Fetterman and his public policy stances has to be the wildest. To watch his evolution actually gives me hope.

It's not the stroke, IMHO- it's the ideas. He's had a while to orient to the ideas of his own party and is essentially saying, "These ideas aren't good, some of these other ideas about America are better, I am going to align with them." It's less "pulling a guy to our side" and more "people on both sides can be convinced of better ideas if they work" for me.
It may be some of that, but it is probably also a little bit of political survival. If he wants another term, in a state like PA, he's going to have to appeal to a whole lot more folks than hard core leftists in the next cycle.
 

I think the 1962 Mets would have won the World Series - could have won the World Series, but they only won 40 games and I think that the Seattle Mariners could have won back to back world series but it wasn't about - I just thought it was important to unify the fans and when the fans worried about whether or not Seattle was ever going to actually make it to the World Series, I thought, even though I thought they could win again, I thought it was better to unify the fans — it was the greatest honor in my life to be, you know, that guy...
...but I didn't want to be one who caused a team that had never been to the World Series to lose another world series that they hadn't been to yet and that's why I stepped aside and gave my tickets to a scalper, but I was still confident that the Mariners could win.”

The Mariners could win the Super Bowl with their hockey sticks tied behind their backs.
 
It may be some of that, but it is probably also a little bit of political survival. If he wants another term, in a state like PA, he's going to have to appeal to a whole lot more folks than hard core leftists in the next cycle.
Oh for sure. From a utilitarian standpoint, I am much less concerned with the motivations than I am with the output. And in Fetterman's case, the output is great.

The Trump Effect is on full display; from hard-line Democrats here in the states, geopolitically, international business leaders, - hate him, love him, indifferent to him, you can't deny the man's impact. He's the definition of a "by, with, around, or through" guy.

Everyone smart enough to read the winds are changing course from Zuckerberg to DOJ to international business partners.
 
Oh for sure. From a utilitarian standpoint, I am much less concerned with the motivations than I am with the output. And in Fetterman's case, the output is great.

The Trump Effect is on full display; from hard-line Democrats here in the states, geopolitically, international business leaders, - hate him, love him, indifferent to him, you can't deny the man's impact. He's the definition of a "by, with, around, or through" guy.

Everyone smart enough to read the winds are changing course from Zuckerberg to DOJ to international business partners.
bolded parts: could not agree more
 
Someone needs to explain to me why there are 4 benedictions here...Trump is not a Muslim, so immediately cut the imam out.


I was interested, so I looked it up. Wikipedia has a page on Prayers at inauguration.

Seems Trump holds the record for most prayer services, with 3 each invocations and benedictions.

Other fun facts:
-This will be the first time since Regan a Rabbi is involved in inauguration day events.

-This is the first time ever an Imam is involved in an inauguration day event.

-Only within the last 20 years have Imam's been involved at the interfaith prayer service. Bush invited the first in 2005, who missed it due to being sick. Obama invited 2, and Trump/Biden invited 1 each.
 
Someone needs to explain to me why there are 4 benedictions here...Trump is not a Muslim, so immediately cut the imam out.

It's cause we still have anti-Western and anti-Christian factions in positions of power. Honestly, the Imam and Rabbi don't really belong. Given the push to denigrate and muddle Western culture, I'm waiting for Pujari, Daoist Monks, and other non-Western minority religions, to start giving benedictions and blessings.

To be fair, not sure he's Catholic or Jewish, and we (US) don't support a religion...
To be fair, the founding fathers were culturally Christian and the framework of the nation was built on Greco-Roman and Christian values. As for Catholicism, not a fan of the Pope, but Catholicism can trace it's roots back to Peter the Apostle.

For those that don't know, the church was subverted through corruption and a series of anti-Popes, which led to the schism/reformation, and the various wars between the Christian factions. That said, they're still Christian. As are the Mormons, Baptists, Seventh Day Adventists, etc.
 
Did anyone bother to look up the Imam and his connection to Trump?

Right.

The Imam has supported Trump since about 2017, maybe earlier. He recently spoke in favor of Trump over Biden because of Biden's support for Israel. The Imam ruses to admit Hezbollah is a terrorist organization. Dude's also Shia...Iran's official religion.

Trump had the most votes in Dearborn, the first Republican to do so since 2000 though he did not carry Wayne County.

This is political payback, nothing more. He and other Muslims worked to rally support for Trump. Don't forget Trump and his team invited an anti-Semitic, Hezbollah supporter to speak at the inauguration because that guy worked to land votes for Trump's campaigns in 2020 and 2024.
 
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