'Zero Dark Thirty' hunts for Bin Laden -- and more

Points for discussion:

  • If you saw the movie what did you like? dislike?
  • What was accurate? What was inaccurate?
  • How would you rate the movie out of 5 stars?
 
I haven't seen it and am not going to pay to see it.

Many of my classmates and military friends have seen it, and they said they liked it.
 
Points for discussion:

  • If you saw the movie what did you like? dislike?
  • What was accurate? What was inaccurate?
  • How would you rate the movie out of 5 stars?

1. I liked that it wasn't your standard "modern conflict" film. It showed (whether accurately or not) the world that goes on behind all the door kicking and press releases. Jessica Chastain was great and I don't use that too lightly when critiquing acting. She set the tone of the film. The supporting cast was good as well- I thought it was cool to have Gandolfini as Panetta. I think it offered a pretty unbiased view of things (I feel the Hurt Locker did the same, I know people say it was a bunch of "liberal crap" but I felt both films offer a different take on things than pretty much every war movie since Black Hawk Down). The "torture" scenese (I wasn't personally uncomfortable watching them- I'm all for waterboarding) didn't detract from the film and, again, showed a different perspective on the matter. The effects were a bit of a drawback- not much, but they could/should have spent more on the helos in flight.
2. I can't attest to the realism as I'm not military/intel yet. For me, BHD and Saving Private Ryan are the gold standard when it comes to a feeling of "realism" (or as real as you can get in terms of war) and this wasn't too shabby. To the untrained eye, the assault looked pretty legit (I did notice, after Goon175 mentioned it) the "flagging" with the IR lasers.
3. 4.5/5. Definitely earned its Oscar nominations (Bigelow should have been nominated for Director- I think this film is about 10x better than the Hurt Locker). If you want a film and not a video game-esque movie, and care more about good acting and storytelling than "realism" it's well worth the $8.
 
The ginger chick in the film drove me up the fucking wall. Her whole character went to shit once she went on her little "I know it's Bin Laden!" buzz. If I wanted to watch Homeland, I'd just watch Homeland. Not watch over 2 hours of "I swear this isn't Homeland", just to see a raid at the end.

On top of not paying to see it, the film earned a big "FAAAACK OFFFFFF" from me. It was piss poor.
 
"I'm the motherfucker that found this place, Sir"... Said the ginger chick, when Panetta asks who she is.

Easily, the single most ridiculous line in the whole fucking film. Who even talks like that, in response to a perfectly normal question?
 
"I'm the motherfucker that found this place, Sir"... Said the ginger chick, when Panetta asks who she is.

Easily, the single most ridiculous line in the whole fucking film. Who even talks like that, in response to a perfectly normal question?

I completely agree and in most Professional environments, even a chick would get a good "dressing down" for shit like that.
 
If I wanted to watch Homeland, I'd just watch Homeland. Not watch over 2 hours of "I swear this isn't Homeland", just to see a raid at the end.

Clare Danes is much, much hotter than the SHOR in Zero Dark 30.

As I posted a few pages ago, I thought the Maya character was the worst part about the movie and if the real one acts like her then she's a total c...

Anyway, I love the "recruited back in high school" chick who is a "real killer" according to her new boss is utterly repulsed by the first interrogation scene but by the end is even telling the guys when to beat a suspect. I kept waiting for the sassy black woman partner or big, trouble-making dog, or adorable, smart-assed kid to make an appearance since we seemed to be using Character 101 for plot development.

I also think BHD is utter crap.
 
I love the "recruited back in high school" chick who is a "real killer" according to her new boss is utterly repulsed by the first interrogation scene but by the end is even telling the guys when to beat a suspect.


Sarcasm aside, is this yet another "inspired" character a la "femme Nikita"? Which really blew donkey dicks both in feature length and serial form..?
Say it's not so...
 
Clare Danes is much, much hotter than the SHOR in Zero Dark 30.

You obviously have not seen Jolene. :D

As I posted a few pages ago, I thought the Maya character was the worst part about the movie and if the real one acts like her then she's a total c...

Nada Bakos thinks "Maya" is a combination of several people (similar to the Hoot character in BHD):
The movie’s ‘Maya’ appears to be an amalgamation of women I knew and worked with, some of whom go back further in the story than I do. Gina Bennett, Jennifer Matthews, and Barbara Sude were part of the initial group working in the Counterterrorism Center as targeters and analysts before 9/11. After the attacks, I and other officers transferred from other departments. Many were just joining the agency, like Maya at the movie’s beginning.

I could relate to Maya as a mid-level officer, being asked to “backbench” at a briefing—you’re briefing the guy who has to brief the guy—while she knows it’s her analysis that brought everyone together in the room. Supervisors sell this as “top cover” for the lower-level officer, and there is some truth to that. It’s easier for established officers to take a hit over a bad decision than for a new officer, whose career could end on an early miscall. When I became a supervisor, I did the same thing, and dodged my share of clipboards.
 
Just read this:

From Brandon Webb/SOFREP--


...But, but... They had an ex-SEAL as an advisors exclusively for the raid scene! :wall:
Interesting that he thinks that. I did notice some flagging, but outside that it was pretty golden in my book. It was refreshing not to see SEALs slitting throws and use ninja hand signals to magically communicate to each other, having to reiterate, "Back the fuck up," on a breach and such. I'm sure I could film actual events of SEALs not acting perfectly 'professional'('Man did you see the way I jimmied that lock?' or 'Dude, check out that hadj chick she's pretty hot' or you know eating shit in the dark) and he would gripe about it.
 
"I'm the motherfucker that found this place, Sir"... Said the ginger chick, when Panetta asks who she is.

Easily, the single most ridiculous line in the whole fucking film. Who even talks like that, in response to a perfectly normal question?
LOL. Agreed...although she had a number of other absurd ones as well.

Then there's this classic - DEVGRU leader asks the rest of his team, "Who here has been in a helo craft before?" (everyone raises hands) "OK, so we're all good." Really? Really?!
 
Then there's this classic - DEVGRU leader asks the rest of his team, "Who here has been in a helo craft before?" (everyone raises hands) "OK, so we're all good." Really? Really?!

Did you take the word to be craft or crash?
 
Did you take the word to be craft or crash?
I thought he said "craft" but perhaps I misheard.

I don't have a clip to listen to it again (video posted above was removed) but if he said "crash", it's still a corny line but much better than "craft"...and then I can make that appointment to get my hearing checked. :-)
 
I don't have a clip to listen to it again (video posted above was removed) but if he said "crash", it's still a corny line but much better than "craft"

Corny perhaps, but I'm pretty sure it was mentioned in a book and I know I've heard it said before by others, so it wasn't anything new in case anyone's wondering. We have similar refrains in skydiving.
 
Video is gone...
I don't have a clip to listen to it again (video posted above was removed) ...
Sorry for not catching that earlier but it only says "Embedding disabled by request" so the video wasn't really removed. If you click on the YouTube logo on the lower left of the video screen it should be able to take you to the video.
 
Sorry for not catching that earlier but it only says "Embedding disabled by request" so the video wasn't really removed. If you click on the YouTube logo on the lower left of the video screen it should be able to take you to the video.

No. It's gone.
 
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