Covid-19

Devildoc said:
Ugh, masks. Don't get me started. There is an ID doc at UCSF that talks about masks, basically unless you have a N95 or better, it's not going to stop it....BUT, what it probably does, is blunt the 'dose' of the innoculate so if you do get it the effects are less severe.

Masks May Do More Than We Think (w/Dr. Monica Gandhi)
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This is a theory I can get behind for mask usage. It makes more sense than the whole "it's not to protect you, it's to protect other's" BS.
 
This page alone, page 136 of the thread, is enough reason to disbelieve every possible figure, statistic, belief, hypothesis, and wild ass dream about CV-19.

Sharks, reinfection, mask viability, mutation, and China...on one page alone.

The numbers are bullshit. However bad the virus is, or not, you're trusting a lie, you're buying into a story. Maybe you believe the right story, maybe not, that's for historians to decide.

I trust a cat more than I trust CV-19 "data".
 
Blizzard said:
More testimony to, what I believe, is a very understated mental health component to the virus response, particularly among young people:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1311031806934876167
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On the mental health side, this is heartbreaking.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article246114855.html

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Also, wait, borders should have been open and we shouldn't be in lockdown?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1311400442996363264

I am beyond confused.
 
ThunderHorse said:
On the mental health side, this is heartbreaking.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article246114855.html
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The anecdotal examples are seemingly endless, which means at some point they're no longer anecdotal:
Military suicides up as much as 20% in COVID era

And then there's this gut-wrenching video (if your eyes don't well up watching this, you're not human):

To me, this is one of the critical issues of the moment. It's driving behavioral changes in numerous ways. It's my belief this is a much more serious issue than many are willing to acknowledge and this will have lasting impact long after the virus subsides.
 
I have questions. I'm curious as to what the suicide rates were relative to the level of illness during other epidemics or pandemics in which quarantine and social isolation were used. Cannot compare apples to oranges I am aware, for instance, the Spanish flu was during a time in which a lot of people are more isolated simply because of the lack of the technology we have now. But still, I'm curious as to correlation, causation, and linkage.

Also curious as to the suicide rate with people who are infected versus non-infected.

This is a real thing, and is not being talked about nearly enough.
 
Devildoc said:
I have questions. I'm curious as to what the suicide rates were relative to the level of illness during other epidemics or pandemics in which quarantine and social isolation were used. Cannot compare apples to oranges I am aware, for instance, the Spanish flu was during a time in which a lot of people are more isolated simply because of the lack of the technology we have now. But still, I'm curious as to correlation, causation, and linkage.

Also curious as to the suicide rate with people who are infected versus non-infected.

This is a real thing, and is not being talked about nearly enough.
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Agree...I too am curious to know the answers to some of those questions. However, as this this article apoints out, I just don't think we have the kind of info needed for those answers. If someone has info showing otherwise, please share.
 
No spike in suicides in Victoria during COVID-19 lockdowns, coroners court figures show.

Victoria's lockdown has not yet seen a spike in suicides compared to last year, according to new data released today by the state's coroner.

Key points:​

  • There have been 466 suicides so far this year in Victoria
  • Men were three times more likely to take their own lives
  • But mental health experts warn of increases in self-harm

Since the start of this year, 466 people have died by suicide in Victoria, compared to 468 suicides in the same time frame last year.

Victorian coroner Judge John Cain told ABC Radio Melbourne the court's figures "show no increase, no spike, no change in the data at all".

"That's not a reason to be complacent. There is still a need to provide support and assistance to people who are clearly struggling through this period," he said.

"But the encouraging thing is that it's not resulting in an increase in suicide rates, according to our figures."
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