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ThunderHorse
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I mean, not surprised.
Devildoc
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I applaud you for looking at the science and coming up with a determination on the vaccine that suits you.
I have said elsewhere, I'm not anti-vax, but I was around during 9/11 when we are getting anthrax, and some of us got smallpox vaccine, I know Marines and sailors who got them who were fine before the vaccine, and then had all sorts of weird syndromes after. I know, correlation versus causation and all, I just want more data.
At some point, my guess it will be 2021, this vaccine will move from "optional" to "mandatory" and I will have no choice. Right now I am in a wait-and-see mode. I do not distrust the physicians who I know who are first in line for it, but I'm not sure I have the same faith that they do.
Brill
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Locksteady
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Thanks for the clarity.
I hope the virus doesn't put any more otherwise perfectly healthy people in that position.
Brill
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Not a ding on you but the media spin. It’s the same as saying SGT x died from a deployment.
Kraut783
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Anthrax, smallpox...check. Here take Mefloquine for a year, just in case...check
Space Force will probably have to take some kind of shot for moon dust allergies
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ThunderHorse
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Court Supports LA County's on-site dining ban. Therefore destroying the lives of Angelenos. (my commentary)
Appeals court allows L.A. County dining ban to remain in place until at least February
Appeals court allows L.A. County dining ban to remain in place until at least February
I was just as skeptical as you my brother. Hell, many docs and nurses I know were/are, most of them have accepted the science.
That said, each of us have to make a decision based on the facts. I'm more concerned with taking the skag home to my wife or immunocompromised pop/in laws. The skag has proven that, there's no rhyme or reason who gets sick, how or dirt naps, as you know.
At this point, all of us have gotten who knows what during our service time vaccines, I'll take the chance I suppose.
My only beef are the cunt politicians that are getting shot first over anyone in a health care setting/high risk.
Fucking Kamala Harris and Bernie, the lot of em should fry with karma over this shit, many are hypocrites for initially stating that they will not take "the Trump vaccine", now, they pony up like fucking rats on a sinking ship. Fuck them...
Devildoc
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I hope you did not take my post as criticism, it absolutely is not. All of us need to find that line in the sand regarding this vaccine and how we choose to react to COVID restrictions. I do agree with doing everything you can to mitigate taking the virus home to family members, especially if they are at-risk.
I also agree with you regarding the politicians, I would tell them if it wasn't good enough for you then it's not good enough for you now.
Absolutely did not take that as criticism brother, hells na. I totally get it.
In regards to most of the mitigation, I'm against mandated shut downs that destroy lives and businesses.
I'm against this pandemic being made political, not surprising though.
I'm against the mask shaming virtue signaling fuck faces that make wearing a mask a patriotic duty.
I'm for wearing masks in close/congregate settings, not sure if science totally supports this, outside is retarded, in your car alone, they are retards that cannot think analytically, that matters cause these idiots vote and make adult decisions.
Masks should be optional, indoor dining/businesses should be open, if you choose to not do that, fine, whatever.
The media and controlling government are responsible for this fuckery.
Brill
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In re: to Covid deaths, a couple of MN state representatives are calling for, what I believe to be a justified, national audit of all Covid death certificates.
After reviewing 2,800 death certificates from the Minnesota Dept of Health, 800 of those counted as Covid deaths did not list the virus as the underlying cause of death.
State lawmakers ask Trump for 'full audit' of COVID-19 death certificates - Alpha News
And while many of you have probably seen some of the "flawed" charts floating around comparing total deaths from 2020 to previous years going back to 2015, there is enough accurate information in those numbers to give us pause. Here's an article discussing those comparisons and indicating the numbers as "misleading":
Fact check: Chart does not present accurate US deaths figure for 2020 | Reuters
However, that fact check article is just as flawed. Just as they call out projected deaths as misleading, they seem to consider projected deaths from CDC reports as reliable; can't have it both ways. Both are simply forecasts and likely will have some inaccuracy. Point, is that it's all forecasting at this point...no one really knows. But based on info cited, we'd need nearly 700K deaths between Nov and the end of the year, as well as some uncounted from early in Jan 2020, to reach the often cited 300K excess deaths; people got to get busy dying.
All this simply points to a need for the audit that's being proposed, especially as officials cling to these forecasts as facts. Certainly a lot of questions to be answered.
After reviewing 2,800 death certificates from the Minnesota Dept of Health, 800 of those counted as Covid deaths did not list the virus as the underlying cause of death.
State lawmakers ask Trump for 'full audit' of COVID-19 death certificates - Alpha News
And while many of you have probably seen some of the "flawed" charts floating around comparing total deaths from 2020 to previous years going back to 2015, there is enough accurate information in those numbers to give us pause. Here's an article discussing those comparisons and indicating the numbers as "misleading":
Fact check: Chart does not present accurate US deaths figure for 2020 | Reuters
However, that fact check article is just as flawed. Just as they call out projected deaths as misleading, they seem to consider projected deaths from CDC reports as reliable; can't have it both ways. Both are simply forecasts and likely will have some inaccuracy. Point, is that it's all forecasting at this point...no one really knows. But based on info cited, we'd need nearly 700K deaths between Nov and the end of the year, as well as some uncounted from early in Jan 2020, to reach the often cited 300K excess deaths; people got to get busy dying.
All this simply points to a need for the audit that's being proposed, especially as officials cling to these forecasts as facts. Certainly a lot of questions to be answered.
I should have been more clear. I'm surprised it took this long for the media to find a case like this to divide us further.
Imagine that, China hiding the origin of the pandemic.
China clamps down in hidden hunt for coronavirus origins
I expected nothing less. I’m more than halfway convinced this virus was engineered. I’m not a conspiracy dude...but whatever the fuck I had did not seem like a product of nature.
Brill
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State gov taking on municipal gov over COVID restrictions. Americans need more of this!
Austin Mayor Announces New Restrictions On Restaurants; Texas AG: Try It And I’ll See You In Court
Austin Mayor Announces New Restrictions On Restaurants; Texas AG: Try It And I’ll See You In Court
Normally, I'm pro cop, I know many including my brothers on here, my bro in law and many friends but, the gestapo stand our state police has taken, doing the unconstitutional and illegitimate bidding for our governor is astounding.
In fact, most of not all counties and their DAs refuse to enforce this shit and it was passed down to municipalities. Unfortunately, in PA, many small towns depends on SP and these fucks are stasi like, I've now witnessed it a few times, first hand as a medic.
One time in general, state cop car pulls a walker in a neighborhood over, investigates why they are there and they have the balls to tell her to put a mask on outside, the governor made it a law. REALLY!
Cop Chases Person Home For Not Wearing a Mask
In fact, most of not all counties and their DAs refuse to enforce this shit and it was passed down to municipalities. Unfortunately, in PA, many small towns depends on SP and these fucks are stasi like, I've now witnessed it a few times, first hand as a medic.
One time in general, state cop car pulls a walker in a neighborhood over, investigates why they are there and they have the balls to tell her to put a mask on outside, the governor made it a law. REALLY!
Cop Chases Person Home For Not Wearing a Mask
Devildoc
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Me, I would relish that lawsuit. In fact I'm sure my actions would have me tased, but the lawsuit would be great.
Ditto bro.
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Du fuq?
Wisconsin health system: Worker deliberately spoiled 500 doses of vaccine
In a statement late Wednesday, Aurora said the employee involved "today acknowledged that they intentionally removed the vaccine from refrigeration."
Aurora's statement said they had fired the employee and referred the matter to authorities for further investigation.
Wisconsin health system: Worker deliberately spoiled 500 doses of vaccine
In a statement late Wednesday, Aurora said the employee involved "today acknowledged that they intentionally removed the vaccine from refrigeration."
Aurora's statement said they had fired the employee and referred the matter to authorities for further investigation.
