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ThunderHorse
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B 1.1.7 strain found in an Elbert County resident, early 20s, no travel history. Elbert County which is near Denver has 27,000 residents. This the strain that appeared in the UK in September.
Colorado first state in U.S. to confirm new, more contagious strain of COVID-19
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ETA: Oregon's governor continues to be one of the biggest pieces of human fecal matter in politics.
Salon owner accuses Oregon governor of retaliating for resisting lockdown orders: 'She terrorized my family'
Colorado first state in U.S. to confirm new, more contagious strain of COVID-19
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ETA: Oregon's governor continues to be one of the biggest pieces of human fecal matter in politics.
Salon owner accuses Oregon governor of retaliating for resisting lockdown orders: 'She terrorized my family'
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Far too young.
Rest in peace, Congressman-elect.
Louisiana congressman-elect Luke Letlow dead from COVID-19 at 41
Rest in peace, Congressman-elect.
Louisiana congressman-elect Luke Letlow dead from COVID-19 at 41
The New York Times: The Elderly vs. Essential Workers: Who Should Get the Coronavirus Vaccine First?.
The Elderly vs. Essential Workers: Who Should Get the Coronavirus Vaccine First?
Who wants to rip on "wokeness" today? It's the main thought throughout this article of actual health and ethics experts.
Ok, this is a reasonable question. Do we want to protect the elderly, or do we want to slow infection rates and begin opening the country?
I think you can argue both ways.
But...
What...
...the...
Fuck?
These are some of the crazier reasonings I pulled.
There are legitimate social reason to think about how best to distribute the vaccine (and I encourage you to read the article to see those perspectives), but all of these hot takes are hot fucking garbage.
The Elderly vs. Essential Workers: Who Should Get the Coronavirus Vaccine First?
Who wants to rip on "wokeness" today? It's the main thought throughout this article of actual health and ethics experts.
Ok, this is a reasonable question. Do we want to protect the elderly, or do we want to slow infection rates and begin opening the country?
I think you can argue both ways.
But...
What...
...the...
Fuck?
These are some of the crazier reasonings I pulled.
There are legitimate social reason to think about how best to distribute the vaccine (and I encourage you to read the article to see those perspectives), but all of these hot takes are hot fucking garbage.
So someone from the WHO, said what many have already said.
WHO chief scientist not confident vaccines prevent transmission
WHO chief scientist not confident vaccines prevent transmission
Devildoc
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@Kraut783 I don't know about Moderna, The Pfizer vaccine, there is no evidence that if you've had it that it is unsafe to get. There is a little bit of evidence that suggests that you can get an enhanced immune effect from it, but the question is, is no one knows for how long.
@Cookie_ , So I should be last to get it because I'm white? Or a male? Or the wrong type of essential worker? Give me a fucking break.
(Not directed at you, but at those articles)....
@RackMaster , perhaps we don't know because the vaccine was rushed to market? There's still three years left on the Pfizer study, there's so much about this we just don't know yet.
@Cookie_ , So I should be last to get it because I'm white? Or a male? Or the wrong type of essential worker? Give me a fucking break.
(Not directed at you, but at those articles)....@RackMaster , perhaps we don't know because the vaccine was rushed to market? There's still three years left on the Pfizer study, there's so much about this we just don't know yet.
@Kraut783 I don't know about Moderna, The Pfizer vaccine, there is no evidence that if you've had it that it is unsafe to get. There is a little bit of evidence that suggests that you can get an enhanced immune effect from it, but the question is, is no one knows for how long.
@Cookie_ , So I should be last to get it because I'm white? Or a male? Or the wrong type of essential worker? Give me a fucking break.
@RackMaster , perhaps we don't know because the vaccine was rushed to market? There's still three years left on the Pfizer study, there's so much about this we just don't know yet.
You wrote a few days ago that there's some concern that the antibodies decline in number after six months or so. Even if that's little more than an unproven theory, I'm still going to get the shot. I don't want to get this shit again.
Devildoc
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I try to look at these things in terms of risk versus benefit, using all the critical thinking skills I learned, I think there's a population where the benefit certainly outweighs the risk, whereby some immunity, even if minimal, is certainly better than nothing, and I think you fit that criteria.
@Devildoc I completely understand and agree with the rushed process, not giving us all the answers.
I'm sure these vaccines have their place and perhaps should have been pushed to the most vulnerable. But the advertising from all those involved has not been that reality. The masses think these are the panacea to "bring back normal". In reality, none of the control measures in place, are going away. If anything, we should expect more; even with everyone vaccinated.
I'm sure these vaccines have their place and perhaps should have been pushed to the most vulnerable. But the advertising from all those involved has not been that reality. The masses think these are the panacea to "bring back normal". In reality, none of the control measures in place, are going away. If anything, we should expect more; even with everyone vaccinated.
Devildoc
Verified Military
I agree. I am by nature very wary of magic potions and elixirs, and I see this vaccine, today, in that category. I want more data, I want to see how people respond, and I want to know what kind of antibodies are around in 6 months, 9 months, and a year. We don't have any of those answers. I also agree that this is one part of a multi-part process and the environmental controls aren't going away anytime soon. everyone in my department has had it now, and I am kind of a pariah. wow they have not necessarily bullied me, a couple people have gotten borderline nasty with me about it. Of course all that does is make me want to stick to my guns even more.
ooooh pick me!! Pick me!!!
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nope, I think you covered that pretty well ;)
Very interesting reading, thank you.
Imagine that, China hiding the origin of the pandemic.
China clamps down in hidden hunt for coronavirus origins
ThunderHorse
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Person posted on Facebook about the Moderna Vaccine...not sure if she signed up for the study or whatever. But she's not an "essential worker" or in an at risk category either. But she goes: "Does anyone else have arm soreness?" on Facebook.
And I'm like...OMFG, do you know how many shots they gave me in the Army that gave me arm soreness?
And I'm like...OMFG, do you know how many shots they gave me in the Army that gave me arm soreness?
Thought that's how you get promoted in the Cav?
This essential vs non-essential is effectively creating first class and second class citizens regardless of your income.
Devildoc
Verified Military
pretty much all of them. But how about that GGB shot?
You mean the golf ball-size bolus of syrup in the ass? #mostpainfulshotever
I'm quite sure that was simply a glob of axle grease injected into us while impersonating something else with legitimate medical purposes....
And that didn't take long.
California ER nurse tests positive for COVID-19 a week after getting vaccine
California ER nurse tests positive for COVID-19 a week after getting vaccine
Probably already had it, was asymptomatic then got vaccine, got sick prior to vaccine taking effect. Media nonsense.
As vehemently anti government I am, I am an educated person that's been a paramedic for at least half of my life. I also listened to physicians I trust regarding the science of this shit.
So, I got my first dose of the Phizer vaccine. I'm going to pick up PEZ and I'll start foaming at the mouth, acting rabid on social media.
Unfortunately, this is the norm for me, so, not sure how convincing that would be.
Regarding science of this: its not a live virus or bacteria like many vaccines. Its a natural protein that causes a spike, explained yo me as, knocking on the door of the virus to allow entrance, works with natural immunity and contains no chemicals. The science has been around for this since 2002, SARS but since we had to pandemic or disease to use the science on, was not worth doing further studies till now.
If yall want, I'll let you know if any symptoms from vaccine starts, though, all I know getting it, deny any.
So, I got my first dose of the Phizer vaccine. I'm going to pick up PEZ and I'll start foaming at the mouth, acting rabid on social media.
Unfortunately, this is the norm for me, so, not sure how convincing that would be.
Regarding science of this: its not a live virus or bacteria like many vaccines. Its a natural protein that causes a spike, explained yo me as, knocking on the door of the virus to allow entrance, works with natural immunity and contains no chemicals. The science has been around for this since 2002, SARS but since we had to pandemic or disease to use the science on, was not worth doing further studies till now.
If yall want, I'll let you know if any symptoms from vaccine starts, though, all I know getting it, deny any.
