Covid-19

Alright, 20 hours deep in enemy territory. The National Media and even a bunch of the local stuff would make you think LA County is locked down tight. Generally speaking, other than store capacity limits which only seem to be honored at BevMo most stores are open. FastFood Companies have made a KILLING. Those restaurants that pivoted hard to outdoor dining and to-go food, some are doing ok. At least where my parents are, none of the restaurants in town re-opened their outdoor dining since the court order lifted the LA County Health Order as it pertained to shutting down outdoor dining. Generally, base on freeway traffic? Looked like a normal December 23rd.
 
I spent about 4 hours at Sea World in Orlando today.
- The park claims they are limited to 30% of max capacity. Yeah, those are just words.
- SW is doing a reasonable job of social distancing.
- Masks? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!Everyone wore a mask, but quite a few had them pulled down below their nose.
- The sharks/ reef fish "tunnel" exhibit had mofos at various distances from others, but the air felt stale, like it wasn't circulating.
 
AWP said:
I spent about 4 hours at Sea World in Orlando today.
- The park claims they are limited to 30% of max capacity. Yeah, those are just words.
- SW is doing a reasonable job of social distancing.
- Masks? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!Everyone wore a mask, but quite a few had them pulled down below their nose.
- The sharks/ reef fish "tunnel" exhibit had mofos at various distances from others, but the air felt stale, like it wasn't circulating.
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You'll find the mask below the nose, is a common fashion trend; every where.
 
Day 2 behind enemy lines, LA County proper is pretty fucked up. Went into the city this morning and then out to the beach to put my feet in the Pacific. Many restaurants and small businesses did not survive the required pivot of to-go and outdoor dining. Once That Health order in LA proper (they had a separate one on top of LA County) many of the businesses that had made the pivot to outdoor dining were barely making it. Also, nice to see LA is even worse than it was than when I was here last year. Kinda sad. But my interest in the city peaked when I was in college. It's just brutal, I don't know how anyone can even afford to live inside the city.
 
ThunderHorse said:
Day 2 behind enemy lines, LA County proper is pretty fucked up. Went into the city this morning and then out to the beach to put my feet in the Pacific. Many restaurants and small businesses did not survive the required pivot of to-go and outdoor dining. Once That Health order in LA proper (they had a separate one on top of LA County) many of the businesses that had made the pivot to outdoor dining were barely making it. Also, nice to see LA is even worse than it was than when I was here last year. Kinda sad. But my interest in the city peaked when I was in college. It's just brutal, I don't know how anyone can even afford to live inside the city.
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I haven't been there since I was stationed in San Diego and Camp Pendleton, but I find generally no redeeming value to that city. We had a nurse, she and her husband, move to North Carolina from LA 5 or 6 years ago, she sold her 900 ft² home out there for close to a million, and bought a 5,000 ft² house on 5 acres here. And still had money left over.

There are plenty of fine people in that city, I know a few people who are there, but for the most part if it fell off into the sea I wouldn't lose sleep.
 
Leaving the communist empire of California. The idiotic policies of Garcetti and Co when it comes to this airport, one of the busiest in the world. They decide to make it so you can't eat at the aiport restaurants and if they're open you can't use the seating, it's all to go. This effectively reduces the seating capacity of the lobby significantly and also constricts the space in the lobby where people will sit. So you reduce the usable waiting footprint of passenger by at least 20%, possibly 30%.

None of these rules they shit out of their posterior makes sense.
 
amlove21 said:
Orchard Park gym wins in court, will be allowed to open at 100% capacity

BIG legal win here and a great precedent. @ThunderHorse how you feel about this one??
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Great win for the residents of Orchard Park and New Yorkers. Gyms being open at 100% capacity means more people can support their immune systems and give them a much greater chance for this virus to just feel like a "cold". It also provides a stress outlet and supports mental health!

For people in other states, since this was not a federal court it doesn't help much.

From a legal standing perspective, this is not legal precedent that crosses state lines. If you were in California or Washington and you brought this as part of your legal argument it falls under the Secondary Persuasive rather than a p
Primary Persuasive source. But it should aid gym owners suits for sure.
 
I just don’t believe “them” anymore...especially when “they” admitted they’ve lied before so we wouldn’t panic but now want us to panic more?

No.

Dr. Anthony Fauci on Sunday that he thinks the COVID-19 pandemic will get worse and told Americans to expect a post-holiday season “surge.”

“We very well might see a post-seasonal — in the sense of Christmas, New Years — surge or as I’ve described it, a surge upon a surge,” Fauci told CNN anchor Dana Bash on “State of the Union.”
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Fauci Warns Americans That Worst Of COVID-19 Still Yet To Come
 
Asymptomatic transmission of COVID-19 didn’t occur at all, study of 10 million finds

Asymptomatic transmission is bullshit. 10m study.

‘No evidence’ that asymptomatic Covid-19 cases were infectious, analysis of post-lockdown Wuhan concludes
A study on infectivity of asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 carriers - PubMed

Here are two other articles I have found. Also, if you're not using DuckDuckGo, a VPN and and extension to what you're doing....


ETA- yes, I am aware that the first article is from Wuhan, I get it. Let's use it as a jumping off point.
 
amlove21 said:
Asymptomatic transmission of COVID-19 didn’t occur at all, study of 10 million finds

Asymptomatic transmission is bullshit. 10m study.

‘No evidence’ that asymptomatic Covid-19 cases were infectious, analysis of post-lockdown Wuhan concludes
A study on infectivity of asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 carriers - PubMed

Here are two other articles I have found. Also, if you're not using DuckDuckGo, a VPN and and extension to what you're doing....


ETA- yes, I am aware that the first article is from Wuhan, I get it. Let's use it as a jumping off point.
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As a general statement, actual data based evidence to support many government actions/responses to the virus simply doesn't exist. This seems to further emphasize that point.

Meanwhile, 9+ months into this thing, what real protections have been implemented for high risk populations, particularly those in long-term care facilities and those over age 70?

The following data is nearly a month old but it still pretty clearly illustrates where the greatest risk truly lies (and this doesn't even get at comorbidities and other risk factors):

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Blizzard said:
As a general statement, actual data based evidence to support many government actions/responses to the virus simply doesn't exist. This seems to further emphasize that point.

Meanwhile, 9+ months into this thing, what real protections have been implemented for high risk populations, particularly those in long-term care facilities and those over age 70?

The following data is nearly a month old but it still pretty clearly illustrates where the greatest risk truly lies:
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Your font is HUGE. I am telling @Ooh-Rah
 

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