Covid-19

Although it is related to the China thread. The people are protesting en masse against China's covid-zero approach. You'd think the se assholes who releases this virus into the world would know covid-zero doesn't work. All they're doing is screwing with the world supply chain. Which honestly is good. The more factories we repatriate the better.

China Covid Unrest Boils Over as Citizens Defy Lockdown Efforts
 
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ThunderHorse said:
Although it is related to the China thread. The people are protesting en masse against China's covid-zero approach. You'd think the se assholes who releases this virus into the world would know covid-zero doesn't work. All they're doing is screwing with the world supply chain. Which honestly is good. The more factories we repatriate the better.

China Covid Unrest Boils Over as Citizens Defy Lockdown Efforts
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Tiananmen Square v2.0 is coming, the commies (and in particular Xi (who is more of a Maoist that any leader I've ever seen)) won't allow this to continue/grow.
 
Oh man! We are so close to, "Let's all revisit the topics you called me a conspiracy theorist about 6 months ago and now turns out to be factually accurate and you want to just forget all the dumb shit you said." again. It really has made these last 3 years fun!

CDC knew COVID vax associated with myocarditis but left off post-vax surveys

From the article-
"Notably, chest pain and other cardiac symptoms that could indicate myocarditis and pericarditis — now known to be more common post-vaccination in people under 40 — are completely missing from the survey checkboxes, without which input data are harder to standardize.

V-safe users would have to write in cardiac symptoms on the survey form's "other" field, limited to 250 characters, for them to be counted. ICAN is still trying to compel the agency to turn over this "free-text field data," its lawyer Aaron Siri told Just the News.

The fact that the agency didn't prompt users to consider adverse events of special interest (AESI) it had already identified in an early v-safe protocol is "one of the best and most compelling pieces of evidence supporting premeditated [wrongful] conduct," Siri wrote in the second of what he told Just the News would be at least a 12-part series of posts on the disclosures."


What we doing today, internet? Are we going with, "that's not what that study meant cause I am better at reading the same study you are" or are we doing "I don't respect that source and therefore I will discount it"? Or, my personal favorite, "That's not happening at all; ok it might be but it's not as bad as you're making it out to be, ok it is happening, but we didn't know at the time, ok we DID know at the time, but we had to."

I am pretty familiar with both. As always- royal "you" and no one specifically.
 
amlove21 said:
Oh man! We are so close to, "Let's all revisit the topics you called me a conspiracy theorist about 6 months ago and now turns out to be factually accurate and you want to just forget all the dumb shit you said." again. It really has made these last 3 years fun!

CDC knew COVID vax associated with myocarditis but left off post-vax surveys

From the article-
"Notably, chest pain and other cardiac symptoms that could indicate myocarditis and pericarditis — now known to be more common post-vaccination in people under 40 — are completely missing from the survey checkboxes, without which input data are harder to standardize.

V-safe users would have to write in cardiac symptoms on the survey form's "other" field, limited to 250 characters, for them to be counted. ICAN is still trying to compel the agency to turn over this "free-text field data," its lawyer Aaron Siri told Just the News.

The fact that the agency didn't prompt users to consider adverse events of special interest (AESI) it had already identified in an early v-safe protocol is "one of the best and most compelling pieces of evidence supporting premeditated [wrongful] conduct," Siri wrote in the second of what he told Just the News would be at least a 12-part series of posts on the disclosures."


What we doing today, internet? Are we going with, "that's not what that study meant cause I am better at reading the same study you are" or are we doing "I don't respect that source and therefore I will discount it"? Or, my personal favorite, "That's not happening at all; ok it might be but it's not as bad as you're making it out to be, ok it is happening, but we didn't know at the time, ok we DID know at the time, but we had to."

I am pretty familiar with both. As always- royal "you" and no one specifically.
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I was forced to get it, as condition of employment in the United States military. Some would call that voluntary, could have gotten out, blah blah blah.

My resting heart rate went from mid 40s to low to mid 70s. A week before my second shot I ran a 5k at a 6:30 pace, with a MAX heart rate of 165. A week after my second shot I couldn’t run a mile without my heart rate hitting 210, now I run a 12 minute mile with an average heart rate of 190.

When I approached my doctor, he was all concerned, gave me an echo on the spot and then set me up with a two week wearable monitor (showed erratic rhythm), labs (normal), stress tests (unusable because the tech became distracted and missed a timing window or something). Then he asked when it started and became very dismissive with my symptoms (had to advocate for all those tests) once I said post my second shot. He then told me to stop drinking (I don’t), stop smoking (never have), and cut out fried foods (household allergies means we eat dairy/gluten free, and generally healthy since we don’t replace food for the “healthy” substitutes). My military doctor now says it’s all coincidental, and a low 70 heart rate isn’t bad for my age (34).
 
JedisonsDad said:
I was forced to get it, as condition of employment in the United States military. Some would call that voluntary, could have gotten out, blah blah blah.

My resting heart rate went from mid 40s to low to mid 70s. A week before my second shot I ran a 5k at a 6:30 pace, with a MAX heart rate of 165. A week after my second shot I couldn’t run a mile without my heart rate hitting 210, now I run a 12 minute mile with an average heart rate of 190.

When I approached my doctor, he was all concerned, gave me an echo on the spot and then set me up with a two week wearable monitor (showed erratic rhythm), labs (normal), stress tests (unusable because the tech became distracted and missed a timing window or something). Then he asked when it started and became very dismissive with my symptoms (had to advocate for all those tests) once I said post my second shot. He then told me to stop drinking (I don’t), stop smoking (never have), and cut out fried foods (household allergies means we eat dairy/gluten free, and generally healthy since we don’t replace food for the “healthy” substitutes). My military doctor now says it’s all coincidental, and a low 70 heart rate isn’t bad for my age (34).
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Dude. That freaking sucks, sorry that went down the way it did.

We had a completely healthy CRO just magically have a stroke about a week after round two- and it was just sort of sluffed off.

Like, yeah, ok- 27 y/o marathon running special operator just had this dormant proclivity for blood clots that just so happened to present a week after the only thing that he did differently for months/years. And he never had the 'vid before that, either, so the "long 'vid" hypotheses won't play either.
 
amlove21 said:
Dude. That freaking sucks, sorry that went down the way it did.

We had a completely healthy CRO just magically have a stroke about a week after round two- and it was just sort of sluffed off.

Like, yeah, ok- 27 y/o marathon running special operator just had this dormant proclivity for blood clots that just so happened to present a week after the only thing that he did differently for months/years. And he never had the 'vid before that, either, so the "long 'vid" hypotheses won't play either.
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Sadly this isn't the first story like this I've heard. I have heard a couple similar things from a colleague at Ft. Bragg.

Normally our institution doesn't allow vaccination waivers/declinations. I was told they are approving every request, not denying a single one. They ain't talking, but I think they know.
 
Devildoc said:
Sadly this isn't the first story like this I've heard. I have heard a couple similar things from a colleague at Ft. Bragg.

Normally our institution doesn't allow vaccination waivers/declinations. I was told they are approving every request, not denying a single one. They ain't talking, but I think they know.
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So here is where I feel like I have been taking crazy pills for years.

We knew early on the shots wouldn't stop spread; that there wasn't a statistically valid reason for young people (18 and under) to receive a shot for nearly any reason; that those in the 18-55 age range should make an individual decision with their healthcare providers especially in the presence of comorbidities but it should have never been mandated; we have anecdotal and empirical evidence supporting everything from government and pharma collusion to pharma obfuscation of the facts and side effects... and yet, here we are. People are still defending and government officials are still stumping for more shots and people are doing it.

Uh, tight?
 
This is why I got the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, since it was the closest to traditional vaccine tech. But of course the gubmint having chosen two horses chose to discredit it. The best part about boosters is that the gubmint told people to do cross boosting if one of their original shot wasn't available. Also...if you're on booster number 5 or 6 wherever we're at. It's no different than the first shot. The only thing you're doing if forcing more mRNA messengers into your body to produce more proteins to do...what exactly?
 
amlove21 said:
So here is where I feel like I have been taking crazy pills for years.

We knew early on the shots wouldn't stop spread; that there wasn't a statistically valid reason for young people (18 and under) to receive a shot for nearly any reason; that those in the 18-55 age range should make an individual decision with their healthcare providers especially in the presence of comorbidities but it should have never been mandated; we have anecdotal and empirical evidence supporting everything from government and pharma collusion to pharma obfuscation of the facts and side effects... and yet, here we are. People are still defending and government officials are still stumping for more shots and people are doing it.

Uh, tight?
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It's OK..noone watched my video cause I am on crazy pills.

:thumbsup:
 
JedisonsDad said:
I was forced to get it, as condition of employment in the United States military. Some would call that voluntary, could have gotten out, blah blah blah.

My resting heart rate went from mid 40s to low to mid 70s. A week before my second shot I ran a 5k at a 6:30 pace, with a MAX heart rate of 165. A week after my second shot I couldn’t run a mile without my heart rate hitting 210, now I run a 12 minute mile with an average heart rate of 190.

When I approached my doctor, he was all concerned, gave me an echo on the spot and then set me up with a two week wearable monitor (showed erratic rhythm), labs (normal), stress tests (unusable because the tech became distracted and missed a timing window or something). Then he asked when it started and became very dismissive with my symptoms (had to advocate for all those tests) once I said post my second shot. He then told me to stop drinking (I don’t), stop smoking (never have), and cut out fried foods (household allergies means we eat dairy/gluten free, and generally healthy since we don’t replace food for the “healthy” substitutes). My military doctor now says it’s all coincidental, and a low 70 heart rate isn’t bad for my age (34).
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Sorry to hear that, brother.

I've always been a shitty runner, I can't blame my run time on the vax.
 
pardus said:
@CQB this shit is still going on!!?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1597902834087124992
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No, that finished a while ago. By way of comparison of the two states, yesterday the NSW state govt. rescinded 30,000 fines due to Covid-19;

"The fines were withdrawn after government lawyers conceded on Tuesday that two test cases brought by the Redfern Legal Centre did not provide sufficient detail about the offence, a breach of the Fines Act. "

More than 33,000 Covid fines withdrawn in NSW after adverse court ruling

We didn't have that sort of stupidity up here, we had strict ruled in place but nothing like in the Peoples Democratic Republic of Victoria.
What is beyond belief though is they voted the state premier, Dan Andrews, (who was responsible for what took place), back into government last weekend!
So I'm concluding that the good people of Victoria are by & large stupid. With those of the rural variety an exception. Second, it really says quite a lot about a centre right opposition who couldn't make a dent in the popular vote.
When Covid-19 emerged Dictator Dan, as he is known here had peered into the future & saw that a state election was a couple of years away & concluded that he could in fact succeed with these draconian tactics.
 
CQB said:
No, that finished a while ago. By way of comparison of the two states, yesterday the NSW state govt. rescinded 30,000 fines due to Covid-19;

"The fines were withdrawn after government lawyers conceded on Tuesday that two test cases brought by the Redfern Legal Centre did not provide sufficient detail about the offence, a breach of the Fines Act. "

More than 33,000 Covid fines withdrawn in NSW after adverse court ruling

We didn't have that sort of stupidity up here, we had strict ruled in place but nothing like in the Peoples Democratic Republic of Victoria.
What is beyond belief though is they voted the state premier, Dan Andrews, (who was responsible for what took place), back into government last weekend!
So I'm concluding that the good people of Victoria are by & large stupid. With those of the rural variety an exception. Second, it really says quite a lot about a centre right opposition who couldn't make a dent in the popular vote.
When Covid-19 emerged Dictator Dan, as he is known here had peered into the future & saw that a state election was a couple of years away & concluded that he could in fact succeed with these draconian tactics.
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That is so fucked, what a bunch of bloody sheep. Well the old saying is, you get the government that you deserve.
I'm honestly disgusted with the governments of Australia and Canada, I thought they were better than that, what with all the govt violence, I expected New Zealand and the USA to roll over like pavlov"s dog to be be honest, which is heart breaking in itself.
Very happy to see that NSW ended up doing the right thing though!
 

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