Covid-19

[amlove21]

NYT finally getting it...

Opinion | Covid-19 Isn’t a Pandemic of the Unvaccinated Anymore

But the FDA wants to continue pumping shit that doesn't do anything into kids.
FDA authorizes updated COVID-19 boosters for kids under 5

Can't wait for this experiment to end.

Here's the cool part- it won't! And the damage is being done in real time. I don't know what changed, but suddenly young healthy people like athletes are just dropping dead from heart attacks and having strokes... but don't worry, y'all, that empirical evidence and anecdotal evidence should be ignored.

Cause Pfizer funded studies that clearly show these things are being caused by climate change.

 

[Marauder06]

Cause Pfizer funded studies that clearly show these things are being caused by climate change.

...and racism

 

[amlove21]

...and racism

Obviously. /sarcasm

 

[Steve1839]

...and racism

Not to mention the patriarchy...

 

[amlove21]

Not to mention the patriarchy...

How could I forget about the patriarchy!

 

[amlove21]

House Passes $858 Billion Defense Bill That Reverses Military Vaccine Mandate | The Daily Wire

Well- this just got interesting. Vax mandate is dead.

 

[Devildoc]

House Passes $858 Billion Defense Bill That Reverses Military Vaccine Mandate | The Daily Wire

Well- this just got interesting. Vax mandate is dead.

The senate still needs to sign off, and apparently the senate democrats have grumbled aloud over it, but have said they won't hold it up over the language. That way they appear to back Biden and SECDEF, but will allow it to pass.

 

[Muppet]

House Passes $858 Billion Defense Bill That Reverses Military Vaccine Mandate | The Daily Wire

Well- this just got interesting. Vax mandate is dead.

So, every person that got kicked foe refusing it, now what? Fucking federal government.

 

[amlove21]

So, every person that got kicked foe refusing it, now what? Fucking federal government.

Nothing. It's written in that people already out aren't going to be reinstated.

The senate still needs to sign off, and apparently the senate democrats have grumbled aloud over it, but have said they won't hold it up over the language. That way they appear to back Biden and SECDEF, but will allow it to pass.

I think they have to let it pass, regardless of the whinging. Either way, can't wait to see how the DoD squares the circle on this one.

 

[Marauder06]

Fauci is head of NIAID and is on the Corona virus task force, I don't think it is fair to say he represents "the medical community", but as the number one talking head of the coronavirus task force I can see why most people would think that. That said, yes he gave false information to the public and should be held accountable for that IMHO.
The fake news is what they were saying, like I said, people need to stop listening to the talking heads on the TV, act like sheep and you'll get treated like one.

You and your father's experiences are not a study, they are experiences. I'd say the chances of your father dying would have been greatly increased if he hadn't been vaccinated. Again, people need to stop taking what you are told by politicians and media etc... at face value.

I'm well aware of that brother, which is why I said "the plural of anecdotes is not data" in that same post. I would LOVE to do an apples-to-apples study comparing myself to other COVID-infected people at West Point. The next step up for me would have been hospitalization. I don't know how many similarly-healthy unvaccinated West Point officers came down with COVID bad enough to have to be hospitalized. But I suspect that number is zero. Why? Because in a population this isolated and healthy, almost no one (active .mil types) came down with extreme cases of COVID here, vax'd or not, AFAIK. However, no one wants to go down that road, because they're afraid of the answers they are going to find.

related story from a few years ago:

Keller Army Community Hospital transformed its former labor and delivery ward into a COVID-19 ward and secured two GeneXpert testing analyzers and the necessary supplies to test more than 8,000 cadets and task force Soldiers between June and August, Capt. Jeffrey Baker, the officer-in-charge of the KACH laboratory, said.

Cool! How many people are being treated there?

The ward, which currently has no patients,

Oh. Well, hey, it's great that you got rid of the maternity ward, which is something we actually needed here, and replaced it with something that treats exactly... <checks notes> no one.

I'm not up to speed on the side effects except that getting covid while unvaccinated is worse.
Agreed with the lockdowns, a massive and uncalled for violation of people's lives.
My last anthrax shot in the Army was about 2 years ago, so i'm not sure what to stay about that. No the covid vaccine should not be stopped, that would be foolish and detrimental to the Military and the nation's security, it should however be placed in the same category as the flu vaccine.

How? How do we know that getting COVID while unvax'd is worse? And is having a marginally-worse case of COVID (you're in bed two more days than you would have been) better or worse than the side effects that we see cropping up in reports everywhere (dude, my heart's about to explode!)?

Put the vax on hold. Do the studies... long term, untainted studies (if such things are possible any more)... admit mistakes... hold people accountable where necessary... then, when trust is restored and efficacy verified, maybe then reinstitute.

 

[AWP]

Y'all are looking at this the wrong way. "Inclusion" is the word here. For years our government conducted medical tests on black men, prisoners, and "handicapable" persons, all without their knowledge or consent. It's only fair that white middle-class America have a go at the process.

The CV-19 vax needed test subjects and what better way to gain them "voluntarily" than fear?

 

[amlove21]

Y'all are looking at this the wrong way. "Inclusion" is the word here. For years our government conducted medical tests on black men, prisoners, and "handicapable" persons, all without their knowledge or consent. It's only fair that white middle-class America have a go at the process.

The CV-19 vax needed test subjects and what better way to gain them "voluntarily" than fear?

This comment was magnificent. Well played.

 

[Muppet]

Y'all are looking at this the wrong way. "Inclusion" is the word here. For years our government conducted medical tests on black men, prisoners, and "handicapable" persons, all without their knowledge or consent. It's only fair that white middle-class America have a go at the process.

The CV-19 vax needed test subjects and what better way to gain them "voluntarily" than fear?

3 blocks where I grew up in Philly is Holmesburg prison, opened in 1896, something like that. Had a few neighbors that were COs.

Anyhow, back in the 50s, 60s, 70s, they had some doc that was forcing inmates, most black to take experiments of all kind that resulted in illness and trauma, with the promise of money. Big investigations in 70s.
Chilling Details About The Human Experiments At Holmesburg Prison - Grunge

 

[Devildoc]

RSV is the new COVID, and I got it. Damn.

 

[amlove21]

RSV is the new COVID, and I got it. Damn.

You’ll crush it, Doc. Hope you feel better.

Also- lil update. Everyone already tracking the mandate going away- and the command is saying, “Well, it won’t be mandated. But! That just means we have to stop punishing whoever is getting punished. If you want to go TDY or deploy, we are going to make it mandatory in that context.”

Legitimately segregating the force into two distinct groups in the name of ‘readiness’.

 

[Marauder06]

Y'all are looking at this the wrong way. "Inclusion" is the word here. For years our government conducted medical tests on black men, prisoners, and "handicapable" persons, all without their knowledge or consent. It's only fair that white middle-class America have a go at the process.

The CV-19 vax needed test subjects and what better way to gain them "voluntarily" than fear?

Want to play a fun game? Google "medical experiments on white Americans" and see what pops up.

 

[Muppet]

RSV is the new COVID, and I got it. Damn.

What's the fucking chances brother! You breathing ok?

 

[Devildoc]

What's the fucking chances brother! You breathing ok?

Yeah, but the rattling cough is killing me. I have been sick for over two weeks now with it. At first I thought it was just "a bad cold", but then I started chatting with one of our ED docs, he was telling me about all the adults coming in with RSV. The S/S fit to a penny.

I asked him about testing, he said "nah, it's a virus, we'd tell you to do the same thing as with any other respiratory virus anyway." But he said, "yeah, you got it."

 

[Muppet]

Yeah, but the rattling cough is killing me. I have been sick for over two weeks now with it. At first I thought it was just "a bad cold", but then I started chatting with one of our ED docs, he was telling me about all the adults coming in with RSV. The S/S fit to a penny.

I asked him about testing, he said "nah, it's a virus, we'd tell you to do the same thing as with any other respiratory virus anyway." But he said, "yeah, you got it."

Tessalon pearls for cough?

 

[Devildoc]

Tessalon pearls for cough?

That's worth a try. I have some from last year's COVID. What I want is either codeine cough syrup or phenergan cough syrup, but everyone's afraid to prescribe it anymore.