Covid-19

Ooh-Rah said:
Serious question -

So far I've seen the Governors of California, Illinois, and Ohio order all restaurants and bars closed. Do that have that authority? Under what rules of law?
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From what I saw on twitter, Newsome requested bars close. I would suspect that certain entities may present legal challenges in Illinois and Ohio.
 
RackMaster said:
Our future... It's idiots like this that will make this worse than it should be.





WATCH: Young Canadians party in streets, scoff at coronavirus warnings
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That is a rough looking 21. On the other hand, some governments are looking at not curtailing the spread of Covid in their younger populations (Britain & maybe the US). I guess they're trying to have their low risk populations get herd immunity and while having other vulnerable segments self-isolate.

As for that girl, if she gets a severe case she ain't going to make it past triage staff. In Italy, 65 & older and anyone with a prior medical condition or comorbidity is being turned away (regardless of age). Obestity, diabetes, hypertension, heart disease, stroke, immunological disorders, etc, are all factors that are going to decide whether or not people make it past triage.

People making dumb jokes and not taking this seriously, are gonna be in for a major shock. If anything, I'm seeing guard troops being stationed at hospitals and people being left to die in their homes. Our medical systems are a joke and they aren't going to weather this without collapses or rationing of services.
 
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Marine0311 said:
I have asked this before, and I want to ask it every so often, but what should I be doing now as an individual?
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How old are you and do you have any medical problems? If you are over 60 and have any medical problems, stay home, take no visitors. I am serious, isolate yourself for a good two or three weeks at least. Stay away from people.

Otherwise if you have to go out and be out in public, get super anal retentive about washing your hands. Wash your hands frequently with soap and water. Do not touch your face. Did I say stay away from people?
 
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Devildoc said:
My boss has been in the hospital command center this weekend. She emailed me a few hours ago, said "it's nuts and info is flowing in like crazy.". She said she wants me to represent our department in the command center tomorrow, but I think I can get out of it.

We are discussing pulling out the ol' SMAT hospital to triage people coming into the ED, and have a separate COVID-19 area for assessment and treatment.

We've got a couple more local cases today. We'll see how Monday goes.
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If Covid spreads like it does in Italy, y'all are about to see a deluge of people in the coming days. If there are multiple hospitals in your area why not designate one of those as a catch-all hub for Covid cases?

That way you don't risk exposing other patients to the virus and you'll be able to keep standard medical services running (for a time). As Covid cases build up you would have the ability to expand the hub to other hospitals, while shifting non-covid related patients to 'clean' hospitals.

(Think of it like shifting people between ships, with hospitals being the ships. Infected ships for one type of patient, non infected ships for the other type of patient.)
 
R.Caerbannog said:
If Covid spreads like it does in Italy, y'all are about to see a deluge of people in the coming days. If there are multiple hospitals in your area why not designate one of those as a catch-all hub for Covid cases?

That way you don't risk exposing other patients to the virus and you'll be able to keep standard medical services running (for a time). As Covid cases build up you would have the ability to expand the hub to other hospitals, while shifting non-covid related patients to 'clean' hospitals.

(Think of it like shifting people between ships, with hospitals being the ships. Infected ships for one type of patient, non infected ships for the other type of patient.)
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We are actually way ahead of you 😉

We have three hospitals in our health system, us the main tertiary care center, and two community hospitals. We have a plan.

There are a couple caveats, some things that are inviolable. We're the only trauma center, we are the only stroke center, we are the only hospital with the three that can handle pediatrics.
 
Thank god for that, was talking to my family (healthcare workers) and their hospital's response has been a joke. I fear it's going to be a clusterfuck for them.

Good to hear some areas have better planning!
 
So I am in the fucked category. I'll be 65 in September if I don't piss my wife off again. I had a heart attack on February 5th and escaped with just one stent on the LAD. My daughter is pulling out of Boston with her stuff in the morning. Son is helping her move. We have pretty much-got supplies for 2-3 weeks on hand. As long as the power holds out we'll be good. Tomorrow I have to find someone to put a hand pump on the well in the basement and get a fireplace insert for upstairs. Wife and kids have done incredible work gathering and putting away food. I'm pretty much confined tot he property for the duration.
 
Devildoc said:
How old are you and do you have any medical problems? If you are over 60 and have any medical problems, stay home, take no visitors. I am serious, isolate yourself for a good two or three weeks at least. Stay away from people.

Otherwise if you have to go out and be out in public, get super anal retentive about washing your hands. Wash your hands frequently with soap and water. Do not touch your face. Dimension stay away from people?
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Young. No.

I will do so.
 
RetPara said:
As long as the power holds out we'll be good.
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Good to see you posting, glad you recovered from the heart attack.

Re: the power.

This evening after seeing the number of businesses fall, I headed out and picked up 50 gallons of gas to run the generator for a while. I'll likely pick up another 50 over the next week or so. I can always use it on the lawn more or snow blower.
 
R.Caerbannog said:
People making dumb jokes and not taking this seriously, are gonna be in for a major shock.
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A friend had a quote from an infectious disease epidemiologist she shared on Facebook, which I cant find to quote properly but I remember the sentiment of it.

Tons of people keep bring up how bird flu/swine flu wasn't as bad as predicted, or how the regular flu kills more people every year but we aren't worried about that. The reason is that healthcare specialists and public health officials do their jobs (generally) well with those instances.

If all these precautions of social distancing and cancelling events seems like an overreaction in 4 months, it's not because the virus wasnt as worrisome as the news makes it out to be; it's that they did their jobs successfully.
 
RackMaster said:
Our future... It's idiots like this that will make this worse than it should be.

WATCH: Young Canadians party in streets, scoff at coronavirus warnings
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Solid loss of a voter.

Muppet said:
Bro, I was so freaked out. I lysol'd myself, my partner, our uniform, cleaned truck. Lol. Fuck this. If we live through this (lol), I'm changing jobs. Being in the ERs, dropping patients off is like being in a giant microorganism of fuck....
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This immediately popped into my head.


Kaldak said:
A possibility, but unlikely. As for what @Ooh-Rah said, I'm sure this is the start of a battle headed to SCOTUS
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I'm worried about how this whole thing looks in 6 months when people are heading to the polls.

R.Caerbannog said:
(Think of it like shifting people between ships, with hospitals being the ships. Infected ships for one type of patient, non infected ships for the other type of patient.)
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I could see the government doing that with hotels.
 
@RetPara Good on your family for taking care of supply runs. That's awesome! Hope you don't get too bored at home. If it helps, there are members nerding out in the gaming thread. If you have a PC or console and like westerns, I hear people are nerding out to 'Red Dead Redemption 2'.

@Cookie_ At this point we're making a big show of closing the barn door after the horses got out. This thing has been circulating around the world since December/January. Things are going to get worse before they get better.

@GOTWA They're already doing that with hotels in WA. There was pic of a dude in full PPE roller painting the sign of an Econo Lodge black. (Too add to the craziness, there was a homeless dude who got quarantined at that location... before he walked off. :rolleyes:)
 
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R.Caerbannog said:
@Cookie_ At this point we're making a big show of closing the barn door after the horses got out. This thing has been circulating around the world since December/January. Things are going to get worse before they get better.
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Talking with a Health & Safety Executive at a major company, their latest data says this thing likely hit the US late Novermber/Early December. If so, we either are fucked...or less fucked.

Clearly the Chinese lied and tried to hide this. If that is the case, this thing was circulating in October. Do the math with the R0 Factor and that's something stupid like 1M Chinese infected by December 1.
 

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