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Wait, are you saying people should take an active role in thinking about and processing information, making their own conclusions rather than some rando on the TV?

Son, this is America we're talking about. Go haze yourself.

Exactly. The America where people bury their heads in the phones and spout whatever shit supports their own agenda or beliefs.
 
I would love for "experts" to quit talking in vague generalizations with zero context; ie. "a lot of young people", "some people", etc.

Keep in mind that over 3/4 of the cases are mild and require no hospitalization or additional care. Ex. in MN, 272 have repirtedly died from Covid-19 since early March. The median age of those deaths is 83 years old. More than 200 of those deaths were people in group-living facilities. Our youngest death was reported today; a 44 year old woman with underlying health issues and lived in an assisted care facility.

So, when I read stories like the one above, I have to ask, what are they really talking about? What does "a lot" really mean, particularly in the context of a broader perspective? Seems these are really outlier cases. They need to be understood but they also need perspective. We have such a myopic view of this thing right now that no one is stepping back for that context and perspective.
 
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Calling shenanigans here. Why would POTUS give China 3.7 million when congess was stiffing him funds for the wall and other projects here in the US?

I know its Snopes and most people have some feelings about them, but it was one of the top responses to Rudy.
Seems Rudy is conflating a few different dates and dollar amounts.

Im still reading, but the TLDR portion is this;

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Ok, back for a summary.

The NIH got money in 2014 to give grants to research labs to study coronaviruses. A paper was published from Wuhan in 2017 on coronaviruses, which listed the NIH grant as a funding source.

The project budget was renewed every year up until 2019 without a renewal request, and in 2019 they submitted a renewal and were approved.

Seems like a poor attempt at trying to make this a conspiracy theory, a la the "Bill Gates funded this!" type, just subbing Obama for the mastermind though.
 
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Second comment.

A heart attack death in someone with coronavirus (or flu or cancer or anything else) is still a heart attack (or flu or cancer or whatever else) death, not a coronavirus death. Right now that heart attack death in a person who has coronavirus is being counted as a coronavirus death. This is scientific malpractice.

I'm seeing this argument a lot in my "gee those fuckers weren't that dumb when I used to know them back in the day" facebook feed.
It seems overly pedantic to me. People live with heart disease, hypertension, diabetes, old age, they wouldn't have died this week if it wasn't for covid. So it's a covid death for mine.
 
Are you saying that Rudy Giuliani, America’s mayor, is promoting a falsehood??
I'm saying you're misrepresenting something you are posting (along with the comments). Did you read the 2016 or 2017 Omnibus bill where those funds came from? Who put that funding there?

Seriously man, I think it's bonkers that you're in DC and yet you're misrepresenting the way stuff works at the capitol.

I know its Snopes and most people have some feelings about them, but it was one of the top responses to Rudy.
Seems Rudy is conflating a few different dates and dollar amounts.

Im still reading, but the TLDR portion is this;

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@cookie Considering how our budget is rammed through by an incompetent congress, that likes to add pork willy nilly, I don't think anyone had a chance to actually read the spending bill. Much less the track record of the organizations that are receiving govt monies.

I remember one of the omnibus funding bills that was passed and the stack of paperwork that it encompassed was insane. I think we have enemy ideologues in govt who are taking advantage of an inept and corrupt congressional funding process.
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