To answer this question I don't really care about after I serve. I just want to get to Regiment,be an NCO there, and show future batt boys the way after that is irrelevant to me.
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To answer this question I don't really care about after I serve. I just want to get to Regiment,be an NCO there, and show future batt boys the way after that is irrelevant to me.
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Lukas Kelly
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That's unfortunate. I thought I had read that there was an officer version of that. Looking at the jobs they do have, I'm split between two for right now, until I find more info on the careers. In the end, both would lead to me using my GI bill to continue my education, and to get an MBA to start working into business, preferably in the international sector. The two fields I'm split between right now are Security Forces officer because of family tradition(My Grandfather was an MP, my mom works for them as a civilian, and my father and uncles were almost all civilian police officers) or Intelligence Officer because I'd be good at it, and I'd at least be supporting our guys who are in combat.
Your first post, I snipped out the irrelevant parts:
Look...I don't like to be an Internet Tough Guy because that's not me, but seriously.....have you lost your mind? What do you want to be next? An elephant trainer? Post #1 has STO, then you doing Intel work, and then you're back to being a STO.
In and of itself that is troubling, but then we have Post #2 where STO isn't even mentioned but now you want to be a Security Forces officer or Intel?
So in the span of a few HOURS you have chosen 3 different primary career fields and one alternate. Not one single soul on this board is going to take you seriously when you are talking nonsense like this. I won't even touch upon the "I'd be good at it" part of the post because that's just...arrogant beyond words.
Good luck with whatever it is you think you might want to do.
Look...I don't like to be an Internet Tough Guy because that's not me, but seriously.....have you lost your mind? What do you want to be next? An elephant trainer? Post #1 has STO, then you doing Intel work, and then you're back to being a STO.
In and of itself that is troubling, but then we have Post #2 where STO isn't even mentioned but now you want to be a Security Forces officer or Intel?
So in the span of a few HOURS you have chosen 3 different primary career fields and one alternate. Not one single soul on this board is going to take you seriously when you are talking nonsense like this. I won't even touch upon the "I'd be good at it" part of the post because that's just...arrogant beyond words.
Good luck with whatever it is you think you might want to do.
I didn't I swear been doing a little drinking tonight...my apologies.
Meant to quote this along with my response.Rather ambitious don't you think? Guess you missed the whole 25M thing...
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Fucking no go!
There are officer career paths in which you could receive language training and/or do crypto, but they're not entry-level. Generally speaking, when you start off as a young officer, let's say intel, chances are you're going to be put in a "vanilla" leadership position as a tactical intelligence officer, for which there is no language requirement. At about the time you make 1LT(P) or captain, you can go the Foreign Area Officer route, try out for Special Forces, or compete for one of the "spooky" MI units which has a language training requirement. There are also additional skill training for officers like the Junior Officer Career Cryptologic Program, and the 35G SIGINT officer course. There are also units in which you could do crypto in language, but that's far down the road for you and we're not going to go into that here.
There are lots of options, but if all you want to do is crypto and have guaranteed language training, you might want to think about enlisting.
If your long-term goals include an MBA, here's a possible career path for you. Do ROTC, major in something language-related since that seems to be what you're interested in, get commissioned as an officer (doesn't matter what branch, but military intel is a good field ;) ), do an outstanding job as a company-grade officer, after a successful company command try out for advanced civil schooling, earn your MBA, return to the force where you can put those business skills to use, and have a long and productive career serving your country.
Well it's something that I've had to consider being that it's the military, it's something that every single recruit must consider, regardless of MOS. So to answer your question, I will do whatever I have to do to complete the mission. Taking a life is not what bothers me(I have never been in the situation, it doesn't bother me because I simply don't know due to no experience). Leaving a man behind does. My entire life I have been brought up by one principal. God, Country, Family and to protect and/or stand up for those who cant do it for themselves. At the end of the day, if that's what it takes to save a fellow country man, brother in arms, or ally, I'll do so. There are sheep, and there are wolves. We need sheep dogs.
Side note, I've decided to enlist in the Navy as a Corpsman, volunteer for FMF and potentially SARC.
Lukas Kelly
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What? Someone told me that crypto linguists are an enlisted specialty, and that it probably wouldn't work as a back up. So, I reassessed and narrowed it down to two different alternates in plac of a crypto linguist. Neither of those are my primary, and I thought that was clear because we were discussing back-up plans
I've never actually thought about doing international business for the military. But now that I think about it, that sounds like a pretty good route for either back up plan, or after I retire from AFSOF.
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I thought you want to be a security guard?
Lukas Kelly
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As a back-up, either Security Forces Officer or Intelligence Officer. But he was suggesting for after I get out after awhile serving, and use the GI bill to get my MBA. I had thought about doing international business in the private sector, but he was suggesting instead of doing it in the private sector, re-join the military and do it for them.
"International business for the military?" You are lost, Lukas. Skill sets from an MBA can/ are used for leading units, but your posts, all of them, read like you are struggling to stay afloat. To REALLY put an MBA to use in the military you'd become a contracting officer and help guys like me afford our Ferraris and orphan blood martinis.
You want to be a STO? Clean your appointment books, clean your slate, sweep all of it off to the side and focus upon that like a laser. Forget an MBA or a language or anything that doesn't help you become a STO; Hell, anything that doesn't help you become selected to begin the STO Pipeline.
A backup plan is great, know that a 50m target is out there, but if your goal is XXXX then work towards that, not where you want to be in 10 years. I've seen..."a few" guys like you wrap themselves around the axle with all of their plans and goals and dreams and then fail. They say it won't happen to them. They are smart, hard-working, yada, yada, yada.....but they fail because some jobs in the military require a laser, not a Lite-Brite.
For that matter, even the not-so-elite jobs require dedication. You know how many Security Forces airmen are there because they failed out of the various Comm schools at Keesler?
Good luck.
You want to be a STO? Clean your appointment books, clean your slate, sweep all of it off to the side and focus upon that like a laser. Forget an MBA or a language or anything that doesn't help you become a STO; Hell, anything that doesn't help you become selected to begin the STO Pipeline.
A backup plan is great, know that a 50m target is out there, but if your goal is XXXX then work towards that, not where you want to be in 10 years. I've seen..."a few" guys like you wrap themselves around the axle with all of their plans and goals and dreams and then fail. They say it won't happen to them. They are smart, hard-working, yada, yada, yada.....but they fail because some jobs in the military require a laser, not a Lite-Brite.
For that matter, even the not-so-elite jobs require dedication. You know how many Security Forces airmen are there because they failed out of the various Comm schools at Keesler?
Good luck.
Lukas Kelly
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Alright then. I had been talking about it because people were questioning my back-up plan, but you have a point.
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You are in High School kid. Go get laid, get in trouble, play sports, get laid some more, then see where your goals are after 2 more years of High School and 4 years of college. You are talking about things that are really at least 10 years away, you have no idea what you are going to be like then. You may not want it anymore in that long. Shit you may go to college and end up a liberal military hating mofo. On top of all of this, what if the military doesn't want you. Big cuts coming in the future. And you prolly aren't as awesome as you think. Your posts come across as horribly arrogant. It bothers me. Look back through the posts in this sub-forum. I am here to help but you are so scrambled up that I don't even know where to begin.
Holy crap. I didn't mean to stir up a shit storm with a question about a back up plan.
Lukas, you're what, 16 right now? And you're having a lot of info thrown your way by guys with myriad experiences in their respective "big" military branch and SOF units as well. Start reading here and letting the information sink in before making posts that would be viewed as the 'knee-jerk' type. I lurked on this site for 6-8 months before I signed up. The mods/admins/vetted guys don't say "read more, post less" to be ass holes. Do your research. As a junior in HS who wants to go to college first, you have plenty of time. Right now you should be focusing on grades and enjoying your last 2 years of HS. If that means drinking, partying, playing sports, going to church, hunting, fishing, whatever it is...do it! I think many of the more experienced people here would echo that sentiment as well.
As far as a back up plan, any time you DOR/Med. drop from a selection course you will be left to the needs of XYZ branch. The job you want might not be on the sheet the classifier hands you. When I DOR from mine, I had about 16 job choices in front of me because I got a 99 on my ASVAB. I wanted Crypto...guess what, wasn't an option. YMMV. Again, you have a lot of time in front of you.
I hope this helps some.
Lukas, you're what, 16 right now? And you're having a lot of info thrown your way by guys with myriad experiences in their respective "big" military branch and SOF units as well. Start reading here and letting the information sink in before making posts that would be viewed as the 'knee-jerk' type. I lurked on this site for 6-8 months before I signed up. The mods/admins/vetted guys don't say "read more, post less" to be ass holes. Do your research. As a junior in HS who wants to go to college first, you have plenty of time. Right now you should be focusing on grades and enjoying your last 2 years of HS. If that means drinking, partying, playing sports, going to church, hunting, fishing, whatever it is...do it! I think many of the more experienced people here would echo that sentiment as well.
As far as a back up plan, any time you DOR/Med. drop from a selection course you will be left to the needs of XYZ branch. The job you want might not be on the sheet the classifier hands you. When I DOR from mine, I had about 16 job choices in front of me because I got a 99 on my ASVAB. I wanted Crypto...guess what, wasn't an option. YMMV. Again, you have a lot of time in front of you.
I hope this helps some.
Just to start I'll just give some information on where I am in my life at this point in time. I'm a 16 year old dual US/Canadian citizen currently residing in Canada. I am in grade 11, I play rep hockey and high school football. This upcoming February, I'm doing a co-op program for my school where I go away for a semester and do BMQ and SQ (reserves) training. I make $350 a week and get the credits I need to graduate. Upon completing this program, I can chose to keep a job in the army reserves - which I plan on doing - and be a 'weekend warrior'. When I get my HS diploma and turn 18, I plan on transferring over to regular force as a infantry soldier or combat engineer. Then later down the road once I feel I have mastered the basics and acquired other skills needed to be a good soldier, then I would like to go for SOF selection.
Ever since I can remember, I always wanted to have an action packed career. If I was in an office cooped up all day, I'd probably kill myself. The army has always appealed to me in many aspects and given me motivation. I've had a very abusive child hood which has made me have a lot of anger bottled up inside. I figure with the army I can vent all that anger in combat and PT. I do get out a fair share of anger in sports and working out, but not enough that I figure I could in the army. Also, I've gotten into trouble a lot during my high school career like having parties without permission, having too much to drink that I wake up in a McDonald's play pen and even getting walked in on. The army could really shape me up into a man with a great sense of responsibility instead of being some kid that just wants to get it in/being hammed every weekend. Patriotism is also significant in terms of appeal and motivation to join the army. As Canadians we are the underdog of militaries because we are next to the military super power of the world which gets us underestimated and under credited with anything we do. As a Canuck soldier, I'll be fighting with everything I got because I have something to prove to the world and to give my country some credit (as cheesy as that seems). As a Canuck SOF operator I'd be serving my country in the ultimate way in my opinion which is why being a SOF operator REALLY appeals to me. Not just that though, kicking in doors half way around the world and HAHO/HALO jumping out of airplanes is also huge in regards in wanting to be a SOF operator. 
Coyote, sounds like you are on your way to the right path now. Keep it up and we'll try to help you along the way.
I can't comment on the anger part and whether it will do you any good during PT and in combat as I'm a pretty laid back guy and I've never seen combat. I can say, that more than that, you need something at the front of your mind at all times that will push you through the suck. You need to have something that, when all else has failed and you're completely broken, you can think on that and bang out 1 more push up, run/ruck the last 1/4 mile with your head up, kick a little harder for the last 10o meters of a swim, etc. You sound like you have your head on straight and that's a good start. Best of luck to you, young man.
Rack, cback, you guys look good in RED. It's a new Navy, I can say that now, right?? :confused:
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