Game of Thrones thread -

This must be one of the most rushed finales I've withnessed.

It feels like the show runners just wanted to wrap this up asap and be done with it.

"Ok we gotta wrap this up, just turn danaerys into another generic game villain and be done with it."
"But we have to add at least some decent reas....:"
"Nope. Just turn her into a generic power hungry villain who won't be reasoned with."

Actualy no, that would be a huge insult to open world rpg games, that often have far better characters and narratives.

So the boat-mounted artillery can snipe a dragon on the wing straight out of the sky with multiple hits at distance, but can't hit shit via volley-fire at near point blank range and any range in between, when their very lives depend on it? Cool.

I didn't expect Drogon to die, and I thought if he did he'd go down fighting.

But I expected at least some sort of a .... fight, struggle, challenge, something.

Instead, it single handidly destroys basicaly everything. Euron's fleet, the Golden Company, the city with most of it's population and garrison.

Again, totaly rushed. No suspense. Only thing that got me was when the Lannister army surrendered but at that point what followed aka Dany going full genocide, was painfully predictable.

So a lot more Dothraki survived Winterfell? Or these were the ones that were out raiding or back at that other castle when that happened? Could be the latter, I don't remember.

I think it's just plain and simple poor writing. Show already proved last episode that it's incredibly bad with numbers.

Making Drogon overpowered like that would have perhaps made more sense, if Danaerys army was actualy heavily depleted. But it seems the 2nd Battle of Winterfell was merely an equalizer .... even though we clearly saw that her army got brutaly mauled and reduced to not even a company. But guess I'm wrong lol

Seems she also has the ability to just conjure up thousands of addition men from idk where.

The way they treat numbers and battles in GOT is meme worthy.

So the green fire stuff under the city. Was that intended to go off, or was it just stored underground and went up when the fire got down to it? I don't remember from whatever season it was when they talked about it. Not sure if it was kind of a last-ditch scorched earth defense thing.

I thought that too. Either remaining Wildfire stored underneath from the last big explosion or used as traps that didn't go off as intended.

The carnage in the city is exactly what happens when officers and NCOs don't keep order, and when leaders set a bad example. With the queen going all My Lai and Grey Worm getting all stabby on people who were trying to surrender, it was pretty much game on after that. At least Jon Snow got in the obligatory "kill a guy attempting rape" scene.

Some would argue that during antiquity and the middle ages, it wasn't something people ( the victors that is ) would necessarily condemn. Often cities would be pillaged and destroyed just to avenge similar events the perpetrators suffered years-decades earlier, and people would approve of that. The destruction of Carthage is one example that comes to mind. Carthaginians caused so much trouble to the Romans, their hatred was unparalleled. They killed 90% of the population and enslaved the rest. But then we got many examples, where rulers / leaders among them many famous ones, were committed to relentless destruction and massacres for no 'good' reason really, even when argued they were strategic in purpose.

The queen just destroyed what was supposed to be the capitol city of her realm. She talked about being loved and being feared, but what she's going to be now, is hated. Fear is stronger than love, hate is stronger than fear. Even Machiavelli knew that. People who feel like they have lost everything, have nothing to lose. Plus, she just made martyrs out of the most-hated family in the entire Seven Kingdoms. Not smart. I hope the bloodbath was worth it, she's going to get murked by someone. I hope it's a commoner who lost his family in the battle.

There was absolutly zero reason she massacred all those civilians. She could have just headed straight for the palace and destroyed it, killed Cercei. But no, she wanted Cercei to see her whole world fall apart first .... by slaughtering a population that was already scared / mildly resentful towards the Lannisters ..... ?
Because that's what Danaerys has suffered at her hands right ? except she hasn't. She lost a dragon and a friend to Cercei. Now thousands of innocent people have to pay for that ? - the ones you vowed to free from their opressive shackles and rule as their Queen ..... ? lol
 
So let's take a step back. Let's say Jon kills Danaerys right? Jon is Azor Ahai.

Salladhor Saan stated to Davos that Stannis sword could not be Lightbringer because part of the story Melisandre doesn't share is that Azor Ahai puts the sword through his wife's heart.

]Longclaw is Lightbringer and Jon puts it through her heart? Right? That has to be the next step?[/SPOILER
 
If the mad queen tries to scorch Jon, how will that work? He’s only half Targaryen, so will he die or just end up losing his clothes (@Polar Bear probably just got excited 😕) like Daenerys?

I like the warg theory too. Bran really needs to make himself useful.


Euron can pop several arrows into a dragon from a ship, but the Lannister army can’t fire a single bolt from land?

LoL @ the Golden Company. Good thing they left the elephants at home.

So obviously the mad queen has the backing of the unsullied and the Dothraki. Who does Jon have? Some northerners, uh... the wildlings are gone, maybe some Greyjoys?

Btw... super happy for Jamie. Not too many people can regrow their severed hands!

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