Gaming thread

[Gordus]

In other words, the PC lords just got the console peasants sloppy seconds.

Jokes aside, I'm wondering if a VR version of RDR2 for the PC is in the works. Cause PC VR+RDR2 = photo realistic bliss and me playing out Chris Adams (Yul Brynner) backstory as a roaming gun for hire before the events of the Magnificent Seven.

Let's be real though. PC and especialy the modding community is gonna squeeze out the game's maximum potential ^^

I'd like to see a VR version but with better gun handling. It is way too quick in the game ! A gun expert on youtube said so.

 

[AWP]

Let's be real though. PC and especialy the modding community is gonna squeeze out the game's maximum potential ^^

Because we're smarter than console dregs.

<3's!

 

[R.Caerbannog]

Let's be real though. PC and especially the modding community is gonna squeeze out the game's maximum potential ^^

I'd like to see a VR version but with better gun handling. It is way too quick in the game ! A gun expert on youtube said so.

Oh wow, didn't know that about the game play. I've yet to play RDR2, I've seen HD videos of people playing though and it looks amazing. The future of gaming is gonna be amazing!

I'm just hoping the communists don't ruin our future.

 

[Gordus]

Oh wow, didn't know that about the game play. I've yet to play RDR2, I've seen HD videos of people playing though and it looks amazing.

It looks fantastic, ppl just love to nitpick. I'll be honest I'm guilty of that too in this case. Personaly I like such games as authentic as possible.

The future of gaming is gonna be amazing!

Absolutly.

I'm just hoping the communists don't ruin our future.

Your word in Chuck's ear ^^

 

[Florida173]

Slowly grinding away on wow classic

jumped on destiny 2, but not going to get the new expansion/season stuff

I want to play some of the new ghost recon. My buddy and I had a blast playing wild lands together.

 

[Box]

Are there any games where hot chicks get naked?

I've killed enough zombies for a while - I want to see some boobs for a change.........................

 

[Kaldak]

Duke Nuke'm 3D. On DOS

 

[Gordus]

Are there any games where hot chicks get naked?

I've killed enough zombies for a while - I want to see some boobs for a change.........................

God of War and The Witcher. Witcher 3 in particular is also objectively one of the greatest games ever made.

 

[compforce]

...Witcher 3 in particular is also objectively one of the greatest games ever made.

By what measurements? It may be subjectively one of the best, but objectively, no just no. I have been playing for a very long time... like I still have an original Pong console somewhere. I was a server side game dev back in the early 2000's and worked with the teams on some of the biggest FPS franchises ever (COD, BF, AA, FC, etc.). I found Witcher 3 to be pretty meh and the 3P controls are really bad on PC. It's also possible to progress the main storyline too far too fast and get stuck in a place where you cannot survive the next boss no matter your skill level and you cannot retreat forcing a reset of the game to be able to play at all.

Are there any games where hot chicks get naked?​

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Tons of them. Off the top of my head some others...

GTA V
Saint's Row
Heavy Rain (look it up on youtube, it's too NSFW for SS)
Playboy Mansion The Game

Leisure Suit Larry - the objective is to get laid
Beach Volleyball (old 16bit game)​

Duke Nukem (The original)

 

[Gordus]

By what measurements?

The game has one of the most well written, and morally ambiguous narratives with difficult choices, decisions and consequences out of all mainstream RPGs. Wheter one likes that or not is subjective yes, but not what it is. I can only think of few others, mostly 2d classics and some good WIP indis that have a similar level of ingenuity, complexity and thought put into it. I haven't played RdR2 yet though but it sounds similarily great. There are other well known RPGs / games that give you multiple choices and endings but not all affect the narrative and world more than just change your character's affiliation and the finale, which is just an observable fact.

Environment, characters, general visuals, quests, and gameplay, combat mechanics are well thought out, unique and well designed.
Skill / abilities system and their visuals as well.
Compared to most other RPGs I've played, even the main quest isn't as linear.

I mean you can't really compare FPS with RPG narratives. Don't get me wrong. I used to play the COD series just because of the story and cool missions, which also have replayability value.
Having a good story is one thing. Having a good story with hard decisions to make that affect the game enlarge, make you think and consider loading a savegame, is objectively something entirely different, no ? not new, but done better than many other games. Thus one of the best. Again, not the best. It certainly didn't get the GOTY award ( and after such an unstable release ) for no reason.

I found Witcher 3 to be pretty meh and the 3P controls are really bad on PC.

Fair enough. Let's just agree to disagree.

Btw, I really don't get how ppl have trouble with the controls ^^
I thought Witcher 1 had arguably the clunkiest controls in the series but once you got through the tutorial it was pretty straight forward, but maybe I'm just weird lol

 

[Gordus]

To be fair though, I've played the game's enhanced edition with all dlcs after the devs fixed t. So that might have been a different experience than playing it right after launch. The 2nd Witcher game is also better with some of the decision making imo.

 

[Jaknight]

To be fair though, I've played the game's enhanced edition with all dlcs after the devs fixed t. So that might have been a different experience than playing it right after launch. The 2nd Witcher game is also better with some of the decision making imo.

Best RPG

1.) Fallout new Vegas
2.) fallout new Vegas
3.) Fable 1&2
4.) witcher3
5.) Skyrim

 

[Gordus]

Best RPG

1.) Fallout new Vegas
2.) fallout new Vegas
3.) Fable 1&2
4.) witcher3
5.) Skyrim

New Vegas is overrated

Jk ^^ Best Fallout.

 

[nobodythank you]

I mean you can't really compare FPS with RPG narratives. Don't get me wrong. I used to play the COD series just because of the story and cool missions, which also have replayability value.
Having a good story is one thing. Having a good story with hard decisions to make that affect the game enlarge, make you think and consider loading a savegame, is objectively something entirely different, no ? not new, but done better than many other games. Thus one of the best. Again, not the best. It certainly didn't get the GOTY award ( and after such an unstable release ) for no reason.

Yes you absolutely can. Halo & Half-Life are just two FPSs that come to mind with a much better story than Witcher (and were there first!). Their stories were top tier and paved the way for future storytelling possible in the Witcher series. You don't have to choose your own adventure. You play and are immersed in the story. Hell, even the game I didn't play, Skyrim is a better example using your criteria. However, if you want the choices matter experience, look at Mass Effect (except that trash ending), or Deus Ex, or even Max Payne. All RPG or RPG-like enough with stories that are just wild.

To your point, Objectively, Witcher has done well thanks to the work of countless games before it. Subjectively:


Two can play Dank Meme Broadside

 

[nobodythank you]

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[Jaknight]

New Vegas is overrated

Jk ^^ Best Fallout.

The NCR wants to know your location

 

[Gordus]

are immersed in the story.

The very same applies to Witcher, only you have not just a great immersive story but far more options and freedom like other RPGs, which is objectively better : P

I mean Halo / HL all these FPS games are great. I'm not trying to downplay them. They are great for what they are. But you have a pretty linear 4-6hour blast and it's done.

"Hell, even the game I didn't play,"

Now everything is better than one of the highest rated games ever, out of principle ? Come on. We can do better than that. ^^

I actualy think Skyrim is the better game ( played vanilla and heavily modded +150 mods ) and also one of the best out there because of it's nigh unparalleled sandbox experience and mod community.

Again. I think I can't highlight the ONE OF part enough. Y'all sound like I dropped a bomb saying one of the best rated RPGs and games is one of the best RPGs and games. I didn't say it was the best game. I'm not even saying it's the best RPG.

Mass Effect

I actualy wanted to use it as another example, but Witcher 3 did right what Mass Effect did wrong with conclusion and closure.

Eh this is fine. I'm not gonna argue my point further.

Since I'm right anyway.

 

[nobodythank you]

The very same applies to Witcher, only you have not just a great immersive story but far more options and freedom like other RPGs, which is objectively better : P

Fixed that.

I mean Halo / HL all these FPS games are great. I'm not trying to downplay them. They are great for what they are. But you have a pretty linear 4-6hour blast and it's done.

This statement right here tells me you have not played either game or you suffer a form of temporal displacement. If you play through and explore everything, it will take longer than 4-6 hours per game. The current record for HL speed run is just over 20min, but that is bypassing much of the content. Halo is around an hour and a half with the same issue

Now everything is better than one of the highest rated games ever, out of principle ? Come on. We can do better than that. ^^

LoL False my friend. IGN (#31), Metascore (not even on first page), Time (not in top 50), Wiki (only 7th best on PS). This list is the first page of results in a Google search. Although I did exclude slide shows cause let's be honest, those are cancer.

I actualy think Skyrim is the better game ( played vanilla and heavily modded +150 mods ) and also one of the best out there because of it's nigh unparalleled sandbox experience and mod community.

Again. I think I can't highlight the ONE OF part enough. Y'all sound like I dropped a bomb saying one of the best rated RPGs and games is one of the best RPGs and games. I didn't say it was the best game. I'm not even saying it's the best RPG.

Yes I did not play the game. That doesn't mean I didn't spend hours watching my roommate play the game and enjoy the story. When I didn't have a PC for a while of course. IIRC you did say it was one of the best (bolded).

I actualy wanted to use it as another example, but Witcher 3 did right what Mass Effect did wrong with conclusion and closure.

Eh this is fine. I'm not gonna argue my point further.

Since I'm right anyway.

To be fair, the ending wasn't the story creator's fault. That was a studio decision that bit them in the ass. Otherwise, it is one of the best series of all time. And, No. You are subjectively correct. You are also objectively wrong.
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[Gordus]

Fixed that.

which is .... what then ? not objectively better - so less content is better ? Why tho ? ^^

This statement right here tells me you have not played either game or you suffer a form of temporal displacement. If you play through and explore everything, it will take longer than 4-6 hours per game. The current record for HL speed run is just over 20min, but that is bypassing much of the content. Halo is around an hour and a half with the same issue

Most pure FPS I played didn't take really longer than that. Completing HALO 1 actualy took me almost day with pauses the first time because I explored. Not gonna lie.
But what is that compared to hundreds of hours you invest on your avarage RPG ? also HL2 is pretty short and there isn't really that much to explore. I needed maybe 6 hours ?

LoL False my friend. IGN (#31), Metascore (not even on first page), Time (not in top 50), Wiki (only 7th best on PS). This list is the first page of results in a Google search. Although I did exclude slide shows cause let's be honest, those are cancer.

IGN and Time critic scores, really ? ^^

Let's take a look at that list and analyse how those IGN/Time "critics" rate and rank things.

IGN critics think Pro Skater in general deserves higher ranking than Half Life and HALO.

Yet notice how the Witcher 3 User Metascore on the very same table, is higher than literaly anything on Page 1.

Now let's move to Times.

They think Space Invaders and SimCity2000 should be ranked higher than Half Life, Halo and many other games I think we both consider more sophisticated and fun. I spent many hours building in SimCity2000 but really .... ? ^^

Yeah I was also totaly blown away by the deep narrative of Space Invaders and Pac Man. lol

Witcher 3 became GOTY in the Game Awards 2015 - in a buggy ah state. They needed more than a year to fix it. That fact and the more reasonable user scores are a far more realistic reference point if you ask me.

But hey, that's just my crazy opinion. ^^

Wiki

This is another one that slightly irritates me.

Is Transformers one of the best ever franchises because it made billions ?

Is the Last Jedi a great movie because the critics insist that it is and it made over a billion ? I still have nightmares from the fight choreography of the throne room scene.

Yes I did not play the game. That doesn't mean I didn't spend hours watching my roommate play the game and enjoy the story. When I didn't have a PC for a while of course. IIRC you did say it was one of the best (bolded).

Yea and I stand to my statement. Objectively W3 is, and Skyrim is a completly different game when you dive into it's ocean of mods.

Did you play the entire series or just Witcher 3 btw ?

To be fair, the ending wasn't the story creator's fault. That was a studio decision that bit them in the ass. Otherwise, it is one of the best series of all time.

I absolutly agree with that.

objectively wrong

Not as much as those "critic" scores. ^^

 

[compforce]

My post wasn't about whether Witcher is a good game. It was about the word "objectively". All I asked was how it was objectively better How are you measuring that? Where are the studies supporting your assertion?
Take a look at the definitions for "objective" and "subjective" Then read the rest of this.

which is .... what then ? not objectively better - so less content is better ? Why tho ? ^^

Nobody said that. He was pointing out the, once again incorrect, use of the word objectively.

Most pure FPS I played didn't take really longer than that. Completing HALO 1 actualy took me almost day with pauses the first time because I explored. Not gonna lie.
But what is that compared to hundreds of hours you invest on your avarage RPG ? also HL2 is pretty short and there isn't really that much to explore. I needed maybe 6 hours ?

If the objective measure of a game is the length it takes to do a full exploration, then games like 7 Days to Die that have rolling random world creation are better as it is literally an infinite world. If you exclude infinite worlds, then you have the space exploration games. There's one mentioned earlier in this same thread that would take literally a year to completely explore the universe as it existed at game release.

IGN and Time critic scores, really ? ^^

Let's take a look at that list and analyse how those IGN/Time "critics" rate and rank things.

IGN critics think Pro Skater in general deserves higher ranking than Half Life and HALO.

This passes for analysis? (btw, you misspelled "analyze")

Now let's move to Times.

They think Space Invaders and SimCity2000 should be ranked higher than Half Life, Halo and many other games I think we both consider more sophisticated and fun. I spent many hours building in SimCity2000 but really .... ? ^^

Yeah I was also totaly blown away by the deep narrative of Space Invaders and Pac Man. lol

Again, it depends on how you are measuring it. In their day, those games (Space Invaders and Pacman) were the only entries in their categories. Without them you probably wouldn't HAVE Witcher, or any other video game. Sim City and the Sims was a completely groundbreaking franchise. If the measure of "Best Game" is "has the most impact on the world" Then yes, they are absolutely better games than just about anything that is out today, objectively. If the answer is that you don't agree, that is subjective. If the measure is "level of sophistication" then they aren't. It's all about how you measure it.

Witcher 3 became GOTY in the Game Awards 2015 - in a buggy ah state. They needed more than a year to fix it. That fact and the more reasonable user scores are a far more realistic reference point if you ask me.

But hey, that's just my crazy opinion. ^^

It's your OPINION... Check the definition of objective and look for the word opinion anywhere in there. That was my whole point.

BTW, GOTY is a popularity contest... It has exactly zero value for anything other than marketing to gullible gamers who think it means something. I know a TON of games that were better in every way than the GOTY for their release year. I also know studios that deliberately time their releases to have weaker competition for GOTY for the boost it gives sales.

Let's look at who was nominated in 2015
GAME OF THE YEAR

Bloodborne

(From Software/Sony Computer Entertainment)

Fallout 4

(Bethesda Game Studios/Bethesda Softworks)

Metal Gear Solid 5: The Phantom Pain

(Kojima Productions/Konami)

Super Mario Maker

(Nintendo EAD Group No. 4/Nintendo)

The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt

(CD Projekt Red/Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment)

The only one there that had a shot at winning other than W3 was Fallout 4. (Metal Gear and Mario aren't real competition because GOTY traditionally favors US publishers over Japanese except in extreme cases) It's entirely possible that if Fallout had listed as an FPS that it would have won, but Bethesda chose to categorize it as RPG and put it head to head with Witcher. In fact, Witcher 3 was nominated in 7 categories, of which it won exactly 2 (Best RPG, Best Developer). It lost in all 5 other categories. Metal Gear even had as many category wins as Witcher. (Best Action/Adventure, Best Score)