Hillary Clinton's Private E-Mail Draws Scrutiny

[nobodythank you]

I think Hillary knew, authorized, and even expanded her email from just unclassified to TS. She doesn't care. Even if indicted, Obama will pardon her on 19 Jan.

Can he pardon her before she is theoretically convicted?

EDIT: Maybe that is why he is having DOJ drag its feet? That way if an indictment comes too late, he will not be forced to pardon her. All highly unlikely, but as we are theorizing...

 

[Brill]

Can he pardon her before she is theoretically convicted?

Great question!

The snarky side of me says the Emperor will just sign an EO prohibiting persecution of all party nominees.

Her case will never see a courtroom.

 

[Brill]

Note the time. I'm calling it: this country's symbol of justice is no longer blindfolded and her scale is tipping to one side due to the amount of money.

FBI Reveals 'Additional Details' About Clinton Email Probe in Secret Declaration | VICE News

 

[compforce]

Can he pardon her before she is theoretically convicted?

EDIT: Maybe that is why he is having DOJ drag its feet? That way if an indictment comes too late, he will not be forced to pardon her. All highly unlikely, but as we are theorizing...

Pardon...no, there's another word for it (Amnesty - amnesty). But here's some light reading on pre-trial pardons:

Constitution Allows Pardons Before Conviction

 

[Red Flag 1]

She is going to get a pass on everything. Win in November, and start to remove firearms from every home in the US. She said, just a couple of days ago is the the second amendment, "is open for interpretation" Hold hard boys, we are in for a rough ride.

 

[Brill]

She is going to get a pass on everything. Win in November, and start to remove firearms from every home in the US. She said, just a couple of days ago is the the second amendment, "is open for interpretation" Hold hard boys, we are in for a rough ride.

Fully agree.

If "we" vote her in, "we" deserve it.

 

[Kraut783]

The interview...wish I could hate my own post.

 

[Diamondback 2/2]

She is going to get a pass on everything. Win in November, and start to remove firearms from every home in the US. She said, just a couple of days ago is the the second amendment, "is open for interpretation" Hold hard boys, we are in for a rough ride.

She will kick off the second American civil war by doing that. A storm has been brewing...

$.02

 

[BloodStripe]

 

[TLDR20]

Remember when in 2008 and 2012 everyone talked about how much of a socialist Obama was, how he was ruining America, he was going to take everyone's guns yaya yada yada. Here we are, somehow still a capitalist country, we still have our guns, and the sky has not fallen. He was supposedly the more liberal of the two, and I think he still is.

 

[Gunz]

The interview...wish I could hate my own post.

I "hated" it for you, at her, not you, no personal offense intended.

 

[Gunz]

Remember when in 2008 and 2012 everyone talked about how much of a socialist Obama was, how he was ruining America, he was going to take everyone's guns yaya yada yada. Here we are, somehow still a capitalist country, we still have our guns, and the sky has not fallen. He was supposedly the more liberal of the two, and I think he still is.

Obama did turn into a bonanza for the gun and ammo industry. Amazing what a few threats can do.

I basically agree with what you've written, but to me, there is just something I find very sinister about the Clintons.

 

[AWP]

Remember when in 2008 and 2012 everyone talked about how much of a socialist Obama was, how he was ruining America, he was going to take everyone's guns yaya yada yada. Here we are, somehow still a capitalist country, we still have our guns, and the sky has not fallen. He was supposedly the more liberal of the two, and I think he still is.

Yes and no. The ACA has serious flaws. Great idea, poor execution. It also burned through his political capital so his post-Sandy Hook attempts/ feeling out the situation were doomed. His foreign policy is garbage and this great wave of transparency he promised us is more like a blackout curtain.

I agree the sky has not fallen, and certainly no more than it did under Bush (the exact opposite if the moderate to extreme Left were to be believed). I think every President (or their cabinet) does their part to degrade our country and push it another step down. I also reject saying an admin. is a failure until 20-30 years have passed; a preliminary accounting is one thing, but we need to see the lasting contributions. We'll know one day how much he ruined America.

I think Obama is an arrogant idealist and Clinton an angry, arrogant zealot. I think we'll see that reality beat him down, but it will only serve to make her a greater threat over time. I think "No" eventually wore him out, but she'll see that as a challenge and double down her efforts on whatever topic she champions. I also think she'll make guns her domestic platform akin to Obama's ACA and I think she'll have enough popular support or political clout to make "gains" in that area.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

I agree with every word in this paragraph so much that it is giving me a literal panic attack.

I think Obama is an arrogant idealist and Clinton an angry, arrogant zealot. I think we'll see that reality beat him down, but it will only serve to make her a greater threat over time. I think "No" eventually wore him out, but she'll see that as a challenge and double down her efforts on whatever topic she champions. I also think she'll make guns her domestic platform akin to Obama's ACA and I think she'll have enough popular support or political clout to make "gains" in that area.

History has shown that if you are a Clinton, "no" means dig in further, and deny any scandal or pushback long enough, people will eventually have sympathy for you and mock those who still accuse you "after all this time."



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[Diamondback 2/2]

Remember when in 2008 and 2012 everyone talked about how much of a socialist Obama was, how he was ruining America, he was going to take everyone's guns yaya yada yada. Here we are, somehow still a capitalist country, we still have our guns, and the sky has not fallen. He was supposedly the more liberal of the two, and I think he still is.

So do think our society has not degraded under Obama's leadership? I remember a lot of stupid shit under Bush 41 and Clinton, LA riots, Ruby Ridge, Waco, Oklahoma federal building, etc. I don't remember the racial tensions that we are having today, and they sure weren't there under Bush 43.

I can see a few good things that have happened under both Bush's and slick Willie, but not so much under Obama. And honestly with the current status of our social tolerance in this country, I am actually worried what can happen if certain people get elected. Trump is tap dancing all over liberal bullshit. And middle class, middle aged America is cheering him on, while BLM and illegal immigrants are protesting.

This is actually a powder keg we're smoking around here.

$.02

 

[Devildoc]

Remember when in 2008 and 2012 everyone talked about how much of a socialist Obama was, how he was ruining America, he was going to take everyone's guns yaya yada yada. Here we are, somehow still a capitalist country, we still have our guns, and the sky has not fallen. He was supposedly the more liberal of the two, and I think he still is.

I am less concerned about her and her administration specifically, but rather about what she will do to the Supreme Court.

 

[TLDR20]

So do think our society has not degraded under Obama's leadership? I remember a lot of stupid shit under Bush 41 and Clinton, LA riots, Ruby Ridge, Waco, Oklahoma federal building, etc. I don't remember the racial tensions that we are having today, and they sure weren't there under Bush 43.

I can see a few good things that have happened under both Bush's and slick Willie, but not so much under Obama. And honestly with the current status of our social tolerance in this country, I am actually worried what can happen if certain people get elected. Trump is tap dancing all over liberal bullshit. And middle class, middle aged America is cheering him on, while BLM and illegal immigrants are protesting.

This is actually a powder keg we're smoking around here.

$.02

I think the racial tensions have almost nothing to do with Obama. Other than that racists think that the "others" are getting too much love.

Do you remember the recession in 2008, early 2009? What a shitshow it was? People were saying it was going to be a Great Depression. Like it or not Obama saw us out of it...

 

[Florida173]

I think the racial tensions have almost nothing to do with Obama. Other than that racists think that the "others" are getting too much love.

Do you remember the recession in 2008, early 2009? What a shitshow it was? People were saying it was going to be a Great Depression. Like it or not Obama saw us out of it...

Can't call blacks racists.. I learned that this year

 

[Brill]

I think the racial tensions have almost nothing to do with Obama. Other than that racists think that the "others" are getting too much love.

Do you remember the recession in 2008, early 2009? What a shitshow it was? People were saying it was going to be a Great Depression. Like it or not Obama saw us out of it...

BS! It was Hillary! She went to Wall Street and told them to knock it off!

Seriously, how did he do it? One post you say we're a capitalist it's country, where economy is driven by market forces, but now you say Obama led the recovery, implying that we're socialist?

The US economy is still trying to recover from 2008. Our GDP is crap, more people on USG assistance than ever, unemployment is low because underemployment is rampant, and disenfranchised workers have pulled out of the labor force.

Six Years Later, 93% of U.S. Counties Haven’t Recovered From Recession, Study Finds

 

[Brill]

Can't call blacks racists.. I learned that this year

The 60's want their ethnic identities back.