Israel and Iran

Devildoc said:
We ain't talking Grenada or Panama. Or even Iraq. That is a big ass country. Are we really thinking inserting a corps (as in multiple divisions and not Marine Corps) or two? I cannot believe that we are. I refuse to believe we are.

The MEU I get, it's a small Swiss army knife that can do a few things and kill people is just one of those things. But small forces in onesies and twosies I don't get and I don't like.
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The 82nd is heading over to rescue the MEU if/when they get in over their heads.

Just kidding (mostly)
 
Having worked in Abu Dhabi for 6 years and been around the ADA guys and blah, blah, blah, I've always wondered if we could keep up with Iranian attacks. I know what the Patriot guys said and could think of, and trained for, scenarios where we couldn't. Those results were ugly.

Anyway, despite not being privy to interceptor stockpiles and the entirety of our battle plans, you didn't need heavy mental lifting to realize that Iran could put out drones and TBM's faster than we can build Patriots and AMRAAMs. So we talked about this in '21 when I was last there, but never "knew", and now we know because it is playing out in front of the world.

Which is a lot to say I wonder if the US and our puppet masters valued allies and partners in Israel counted on bringing Iran to the table before our stockpiles were depleted? Here's where the Houthis come into play because those same interceptors being used against Iran are the ones the UAE and Saudi used against the Houthis' limited attacks on those nations a few years ago. A new front coming from Yemen on the Red Sea and with TBM's into Saudi Arabia and the UAE could actually pose real problems.

Food for thought as we watch this play out.

And damn the Neocons for eternity for not solving this in 2003. I'm sure glad we showed Iraq what's up...
 
It's almost as if the middle east has been this way for thousands of years and western civilization has just adopted a policy of "blind eye" diplomacy propped up for generations by empty diplomacy, "peace bribes" disguised as humanitarian aid, and the hope that someday, radical Islam would settle down and play nice.

Somebody really should do something about this before things get out of hand.
 
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You're old enough to remember how on Sunday the talking heads and junior congressclown from wherever would go on a Sunday morning show like Meet the Press? That person would then carry the water for the administration or one party or the other, but it was "their" opinion or editorial?

I like the SRS, but it increasingly feels like it is today's Meet the Press. THE stop you have to make for prestige, optics, the spotlight, etc.

Are we at a point where large podcasts are the new MSM and can't be trusted?
 
AWP said:
You're old enough to remember how on Sunday the talking heads and junior congressclown from wherever would go on a Sunday morning show like Meet the Press? That person would then carry the water for the administration or one party or the other, but it was "their" opinion or editorial?

I like the SRS, but it increasingly feels like it is today's Meet the Press. THE stop you have to make for prestige, optics, the spotlight, etc.

Are we at a point where large podcasts are the new MSM and can't be trusted?
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Absolutely agreed.

I can see many sides but I don't trust an Fing thing that I hear now, other that the Bible, my wife and those I love.

The fact that some folks will blindly follow these people without critical thinking skills or independent thought is astounding.
 
AWP said:
You're old enough to remember how on Sunday the talking heads and junior congressclown from wherever would go on a Sunday morning show like Meet the Press? That person would then carry the water for the administration or one party or the other, but it was "their" opinion or editorial?

I like the SRS, but it increasingly feels like it is today's Meet the Press. THE stop you have to make for prestige, optics, the spotlight, etc.

Are we at a point where large podcasts are the new MSM and can't be trusted?
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Space Rsi GIF by Star Citizen


Since we started treating twitter and podcasts as worth reporting on, yes. It's been mainstream since Rogan blew up bigger than most MSM channels in 2018-2019.
 
Welp, that settles it for me. This guy went on the Shawn Ryan Show, so I reckon he speaks The Truth™"
Vets can't go on a Vet Podcast and lie, exaggerate, or even show bias - because they are above reproach.
- in fact, "a lot of people have just forgot who the fuck he is and what he has done for this country"
Thank you for your service Joe
Thank you for what you did for us.
Thank you
Thank you
Thank you
...and than YOU Mr Ryan for reminding us that we are "lesser"

EweToob Podcast + "LIKES" = "The Truth™"

How dare I not exalt this guy for his service.
Sorry Joe and I apologize for any thread of doubt - YOU.ARE.THE.MAN.
You too Shawn - you're the man too....

I believe everything now.
Joe Kent for President with Ryan as his VP...

Make Kent Great in Twenty-Eight
 
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I can't listen to an entire SRS Podcast.
Never could - don't think I'll ever have the discipline to sit and listen to all the the grandstanding and autoerotic ego stroking.
I can listen in short bursts as I drag the slider across the time line...
...other wise it sounds like the reason he quit is exactly what he wrote on the letter than he published on open source social media.
...backed up by all of his reasons why Israel = bad and Joe Kent foreign policy opinions = good

I just don't want to comment toooo heavily because people will think I forgot just who the fuck he is and what he has done for this country.
 
He's going on like 10 podcasts. As I said, this has nothing to do with principles. When you leave based on principle it's three sentences. There's money to be made.

AWP said:
You're old enough to remember how on Sunday the talking heads and junior congressclown from wherever would go on a Sunday morning show like Meet the Press? That person would then carry the water for the administration or one party or the other, but it was "their" opinion or editorial?

I like the SRS, but it increasingly feels like it is today's Meet the Press. THE stop you have to make for prestige, optics, the spotlight, etc.

Are we at a point where large podcasts are the new MSM and can't be trusted?
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We got there 15 minutes ago, where you been?
 
I have no opinion of Joe Kent...for now. However I do want to make it known that when I first saw a clip of him on his time with SRS I was asking myself why my radar went off as he looked like he was a person with a chip on his shoulder and was overly cocky like a typical kind only an asshat would consist of. I never watched the actual podcast because I wasn't interested in being proven right or wrong. Just wasn't my thing as I have made it known in the past to not self trigger myself.

However when Marauder mentioned watching it while doing cardio, it did give me the idea to weaponize any possible triggering and making me sweat even more. I guess this tangent being trivial as it was, was worth mentioning.
 
The Quartermaster said:
However when Marauder mentioned watching it while doing cardio, it did give me the idea to weaponize any possible triggering and making me sweat even more. I guess this tangent being trivial as it was, was worth mentioning.
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Um... to be clear, I don't "do cardio." Ever. Yes, treadmill=cardio. To some. But I'm just "walking on a treadmill to get my steps because I live in NY and it's still f'ing cold here."

Just for the record.
;)
 
ThunderHorse said:
Why do you think I'm mad? Him being full of himself doesn't effect me.
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I don't read him that way at all. I can't say for sure what's in his heart and neither can you. I do know that he's maintained the same stance since at least mid 2024. That being said, along with his history, I choose to respect his opinion. Its ok if you don't, but no need to constantly smash a fellow veteran because you don't like his opinion.

BTW, You ok with war profiteering when its someone you agree with?
 
It's not that I don't like his opinion, it's the delivery that I have an issue with. Going on 10 podcasts precludes someone from having principles. It means they're in it for something else, whether that is insidious or just money.

He flip flopped on who killed his wife, he says that Israel is responsible. (Only if Israel's existence is the reason, because they have nothing to do with Iranian proxies that want to wipe them from the map)

What's funny about this thread is so many of you seem to want to point fingers at Israel, why? Do you really think a country that has very few natural resources can control the US? Really? Look closely and you could find an answer, the answer isn't Israel. It's KSA.
 

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