National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (please review page 1)

[Devildoc]

Gabriel Mouton thought to himself, that whole mm, cm, m, km 1, 10, 100, 1000 thing worked a treat. I'll make a litre a 10cm by 10cm by 10cm cube, and I'll make a ml a thousandth of that. It'll be piss easy, even the kids will have it mastered by the time they've hit their first decimal.

But then we have the gallon, 10 different Brit versions, the eventual imperial version, a US dry one and a wet one. One is 10 pounds of water at 62 degrees F, because, why the fuck not? Same the US gallon, lets make it 128 fluid ounces, because someone was born on the 28th of January, no doubt... What's a fluid ounce? Imperial, or US, 1/20th of an Imperial pint, or 1/16th of a colonial one... Just making shit up as they went along, the only thing in the country that holds fluid is that old wine barrel from the Mayflower. It shall be the basis for all volume calculations from this point onward...
Fuckers would have got to the moon in 1960 if the German scientists didn't have to translate all of their metric calculations into gibberish...

We would have got to the moon in 1960 if we didn't have German scientists standing in our way....

 

[Florida173]

Question for the group.

Can a minority commit a "hate crime" against someone of the same, or similar, minority?

Answering my own question.. apparently hate crime is pretty much any crime that can show actual or perceived bias against race, color, religion, national origin, sex, age, marital status, personal appearance, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, family responsibility, homelessness, physical disability, matriculation, or political affiliation.

Relevant statute for where I was looking at.
D.C. Law Library - § 22–3701. Definitions.

 

[Blizzard]

Question for the group.

Can a minority commit a "hate crime" against someone of the same, or similar, minority?

All depends on what they identify as.

 

[Marauder06]

Answering my own question.. apparently hate crime is pretty much any crime that can show actual or perceived bias against race, color, religion, national origin, sex, age, marital status, personal appearance, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, family responsibility, homelessness, physical disability, matriculation, or political affiliation.

Relevant statute for where I was looking at.
D.C. Law Library - § 22–3701. Definitions.

Does the word "matriculation" have a different dictionary definition? Because I thought that meant 'where someone went to school.' So that's a "hate crime" now?

 

[ThunderHorse]

Question for the group.

Can a minority commit a "hate crime" against someone of the same, or similar, minority?

Yes. There are multiple protected classes. Race is only one of them.

Protected Classes: Race, Religion, Sex, National Origin, Age, Disability, and Genetic Information, at the Federal Level.

Some other states expand this under Sex to include Trans-gendered people.

So, for instance, say an Jewish guy committed a crime against another Jewish guy who was over 40. Boom, could be a hate crime.

 

[Florida173]

Does the word "matriculation" have a different dictionary definition? Because I thought that meant 'where someone went to school.' So that's a "hate crime" now?

From all other references across other statutes, it does indeed mean that.

Basically.. if you were wearing a Yale sweatshirt.. and someone beat you up on street.. you could argue that it was a hate crime.

 

[Grunt]

Truthfully, at the end of the day, a hate crime is what the prosecutor says it is and decides to prosecute said crime as....

 

[ThunderHorse]

From all other references across other statutes, it does indeed mean that.

Basically.. if you were wearing a Yale sweatshirt.. and someone beat you up on street.. you could argue that it was a hate crime.

err, nvm.

 

[Locksteady]

Matriculation means National Origin. Blessed are the woke who run DC, for they shall inherit a burned out earth.

*Change the language so it no longer means what it was supposed to mean.

I think national origin is already covered in what @Florida173 posted, though.

I'm guessing matriculation includes where you were educated and maybe your education level (whether or not you matriculated to anywhere to begin with), too.

 

[ThunderHorse]

I think national origin is already covered in what @Florida173 posted, though.

I'm guessing matriculation includes where you were educated and maybe your education level (whether or not you matriculated from anywhere to begin with), too.

Ah you're right, I didn't see that since the DC statute he referenced has like 15 protected classes.

 

[Marauder06]

From all other references across other statutes, it does indeed mean that.

Basically.. if you were wearing a Yale sweatshirt.. and someone beat you up on street.. you could argue that it was a hate crime.

Well let's be honest I'd probably deserve it :)

 

[Marauder06]

This whole thing is ridiculous. "Equal protection under the law" seems to me that there should be no "protected classes." We're all either protected equally, or we're not. It seems to me that every violent crime has some element of "hate" to it, there doesn't need to be any special enhancement, IMO.

 

[Devildoc]

This whole thing is ridiculous. "Equal protection under the law" seems to me that there should be no "protected classes." We're all either protected equally, or we're not. It seems to me that every violent crime has some element of "hate" to it, there doesn't need to be any special enhancement, IMO.

It almost seems unconstitutional: you are basically getting punished twice for the same crime.

 

[Marauder06]

More reading about "matriculation:"

https://ohr.dc.gov/sites/default/fi... Enforcement guidance - PersonalApp_92517.pdf

 

[compforce]

This whole thing is ridiculous. "Equal protection under the law" seems to me that there should be no "protected classes." We're all either protected equally, or we're not. It seems to me that every violent crime has some element of "hate" to it, there doesn't need to be any special enhancement, IMO.

Hate Crime Laws - YouTube

I'm not sure why these aren't embedding any longer...

 

[AWP]

So...would every barroom brawl between sister services be a hate crime? You probably wouldn't start throwing 'bows if they weren't Marines, you know?

 

[Grunt]

That is simply a law to make someone feel more *special* than someone else and cause an ever greater rift between people than what already exists. Hate crimes was one of the worst pieces of legislation to ever be created in my lifetime. We - as Americans - are our absolute worst enemies when it comes to creating our own *issues.*

 

[757]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1346660619676745732

significant.

 

[Marauder06]

Hate Crime Laws - YouTube

I'm not sure why these aren't embedding any longer...

That was brilliant.

 

[compforce]

That was brilliant.

The whole episode was brilliant. Your post was almost a perfect summary of their speech