National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (please review page 1)

[Cookie_]

In the face of a Banana Republic-tier election system, I am not surprised that American conservatives have had enough. I suppose it's now or never, that time to be "mostly peaceful".

Our election system heavily favors the conservatives on the federal level.

These are the types of people most afraid of a "1984" style government, but would happily support a facist authoritarian leader if he says what the want.

These aren't people who support freedom or American ideals anymore than the Marxists BLM members they hate.

 

[Devildoc]

Our election system heavily favors the conservatives on the federal level.

These are the types of people most afraid of a "1984" style government, but would happily support a facist authoritarian leader if he says what the want.

These aren't people who support freedom or American ideals anymore than the Marxists BLM members they hate.

Are you really sure about that? I mean, really sure?

I know a guy, works in IT at NC State Univ, who is there. He is as milquetoast as it gets. I see him snapping a la Michael Douglas in Falling Down. He honestly believes the DNC has orchestrated a bloodless coup in this election. He thinks there is zero for redress with the government. Six months ago he was politically in the middle.

Scary times.

 

[Cookie_]

Are you really sure about that? I mean, really sure?

I know a guy, works in IT at NC State Univ, who is there. He is as milquetoast as it gets. I see him snapping a la Michael Douglas in Falling Down. He honestly believes the DNC has orchestrated a bloodless coup in this election. He thinks there is zero for redress with the government. Six months ago he was politically in the middle.

Scary times.

I stand by my statement. That sounds like a person who never actually had any political philosophy himself, but was just a member of a team.
He feels his team was cheated, and he wants to do something about it.

I don't think it's more prone on one side or the other, but it is a big problem in America that politics is more akin to violent clashes between soccer clubs.

 

[Devildoc]

I stand by my statement. That sounds like a person who never actually had any political philosophy himself, but was just a member of a team.
He feels his team was cheated, and he wants to do something about it.

I don't think it's more prone on one side or the other, but it is a big problem in America that politics is more akin to violent clashes between soccer clubs.

I respect that. I think I used to feel more like that. I feel...less like that.

 

[Locksteady]

Interesting (but foolish, giving out his PII while admitting to a crime) testimonial from an eyewitness to the Capitol shooting.

Surprisingly collected, too, even though you can tell he is still a bit shaken.

 

[TYW27]

Bro, did he just say they had flash bangs and tear gas? WTF. Doesn’t sound like they planned a peaceful protest at all.

 

[AWP]

Interesting (but foolish, giving out his PII while admitting to a crime) testimonial from an eyewitness to the Capitol shooting.

Surprisingly collected, too, even though you can tell he is still a bit shaken.

That idiot needs to go to jail along with...whoever else was involved.

Jersey, that guy is an honorary Florida Man for that video. Send him to Lauderdale, they could use his insight.

 

[Brill]

Question for the group.

Can a minority commit a "hate crime" against someone of the same, or similar, minority?

Sure, why not?

Defining a Hate Crime​

A hate crime is a traditional offense like murder, arson, or vandalism with an added element of bias. For the purposes of collecting statistics, the FBI has defined a hate crime as a “criminal offense against a person or property motivated in whole or in part by an offender’s bias against a race, religion, disability, sexual orientation, ethnicity, gender, or gender identity.” Hate itself is not a crime—and the FBI is mindful of protecting freedom of speech and other civil liberties.

Hate Crimes | Federal Bureau of Investigation

 

[Locksteady]

Sure, why not?

Defining a Hate Crime​

A hate crime is a traditional offense like murder, arson, or vandalism with an added element of bias. For the purposes of collecting statistics, the FBI has defined a hate crime as a “criminal offense against a person or property motivated in whole or in part by an offender’s bias against a race, religion, disability, sexual orientation, ethnicity, gender, or gender identity.” Hate itself is not a crime—and the FBI is mindful of protecting freedom of speech and other civil liberties.

Hate Crimes | Federal Bureau of Investigation

Just ask this guy:

 

[R.Caerbannog]

That idiot needs to go to jail along with...whoever else was involved.

Jersey, that guy is an honorary Florida Man for that video. Send him to Lauderdale, they could use his insight.

Kid is a patriot and any state that lays claim to him should be proud.

 

[digrar]

Bro, did he just say they had flash bangs and tear gas? WTF. Doesn’t sound like they planned a peaceful protest at all.

I thought he said they went through flash bangs and tear gas.

 

[TYW27]

I thought he said they went through flash bangs and tear gas.

That’s what I hoped he was saying. I’ll have to relisten

EDIT - I listened again, he said through tear gas and flash bangs. It’s more likely that came from the Capital Police/Secret Service but then there’s a lot of talk on Twitter about how this is Antifa trying to stir stuff up blaming the MAGA crowd. At this point I don’t really care

 

[TYW27]

Kid is a patriot and any state that lays claim to him should be proud.

I think a lot of people are thinking that we are living back under some type of Monarchy oppressive rule like our forefathers had before the birth of this nation.

The people who stormed the Capital are referring to a revolution. This ain’t it.

There may actually come a time when we will need to take up arms against a truly oppressive government or foreign nation. But until that happens I’m going to keep working hard and take care of my wife and kids and stay away from extreme, trendy, sensationalized news/politics/social media.

Call me when there’s a war worth fighting for. Not this garbage.

 

[R.Caerbannog]

I think a lot of people are thinking that we are living back under some type of Monarchy oppressive rule like our forefathers had before the birth of this nation.

The people who stormed the Capital are referring to a revolution. This ain’t it.

There may actually come a time when we will need to take up arms against a truly oppressive government or foreign nation. But until that happens I’m going to keep working hard and take care of my wife and kids and stay away from extreme, trendy, sensationalized news/politics/social media.

Call me when there’s a war worth fighting for. Not this garbage.

Your very freedom and that of your friends and loved ones is at stake. Not sure if you were here, but earlier this year in the all politics thread we covered liberal politicians wanting "lists" of Trump supporters.

Couple the above with the Covid Concentration/Detention Camp laws passed in NY and you've got a recipe for disaster.

Also, our forefathers stormed the capitol over grievances like "taxation without representation". How represented do you feel when places like Pakistan are getting millions and DC politicians are lining their pockets with your taxes?

 

[RetPara]

PIcs attached of probable ANTIFA.

 

[Cookie_]

PIcs attached of probable ANTIFA.

That tattoo is from a video game called Dishonored

Outsider's Mark

As for the American flag face painted viking dude; we did have anti-BLM people at protests too. I don't think "here's a photo someone took of a dude at a thing, with mo context!" is really all that reliable.

ETA: Literally seen after I posted

 

[ThunderHorse]

PIcs attached of probable ANTIFA.

Yeah I saw those.

 

[TYW27]

Your very freedom and that of your friends and loved ones is at stake. Not sure if you were here, but earlier this year in the all politics thread we covered liberal politicians wanting "lists" of Trump supporters.

Couple the above with the Covid Concentration/Detention Camp laws passed in NY and you've got a recipe for disaster.

Also, our forefathers stormed the capitol over grievances like "taxation without representation". How represented do you feel when places like Pakistan are getting millions and DC politicians are lining their pockets with your taxes?

I disagree. My freedoms are not at stake yet. Which is my point. I understand there is a time to go to war with an enemy that is threatening my family and I with violence and evil. And when that day comes I’m fully prepared to do what it takes. But I don’t believe now is that time.

Our forefathers lived in a much different time from our own. I believe that our political system is broken but we still have checks and balances. Even Trump (who I supported over Hilary) with his big Ego and his hunger for power was held in check by members of Congress and even at times the Media. Are we closer to being oppressed than before? Maybe, but we aren’t there yet, and fueling fear over that slippery slope is nothing but alarmism (if that’s even a word).

I’ll be honest, I didn’t vote this year. I’ve lost faith in our election process. Of all the people who could have been elected we got Trump and Hillary the last election. Now we have Joe Biden and Trump this past election. In my opinion I think we should move away from a strict two-party system. We need better options.

like I said, call me when there’s a real war to fight and I’m there.

 

[R.Caerbannog]

I disagree. My freedoms are not at stake yet. Which is my point. I understand there is a time to go to war with an enemy that is threatening my family and I with violence and evil. And when that day comes I’m fully prepared to do what it takes. But I don’t believe now is that time.

Our forefathers lived in a much different time from our own. I believe that our political system is broken but we still have checks and balances. Even Trump (who I supported over Hilary) with his big Ego and his hunger for power was held in check by members of Congress and even at times the Media. Are we closer to being oppressed than before? Maybe, but we aren’t there yet, and fueling fear over that slippery slope is nothing but alarmism (if that’s even a word).

I’ll be honest, I didn’t vote this year. I’ve lost faith in our election process. Of all the people who could have been elected we got Trump and Hillary the last election. Now we have Joe Biden and Trump this past election. In my opinion I think we should move away from a strict two-party system. We need better options.

like I said, call me when there’s a real war to fight and I’m there.

But they already are. We've been under constant information warfare for the past few months. Elections have been stolen and our public has been lied to. If the most powerful man in the world has been silenced by a tech giant, how much better do you think you'll fare?

Hell, look at the people who've lost their homes, businesses, and livelihoods. How free did they feel when bureaucrats passed draconian edicts against them? How far did their voices carry before they were forced into economic ruin?

The war is here and has always been here, only the intensity of it has changed. We've been like frogs in a pot, only now the heat has noticeably increased.

 

[TYW27]

But they already are. We've been under constant information warfare for the past few months. Elections have been stolen and our public has been lied to. If the most powerful man in the world has been silenced by a tech giant, how much better do you think you'll fare?

Hell, look at the people who've lost their homes, businesses, and livelihoods. How free did they feel when bureaucrats passed draconian edicts against them? How far did their voices carry before they were forced into economic ruin?

The war is here and has always been here, only the intensity of it has changed. We've been like frogs in a pot, only now the heat has noticeably increased.

I happen to know a little about information warfare and even though I do see how Social Media is being weaponized and used to further wedge Americans into two camps; I don’t see how you could compare this to how the British oppressed the Colonists. I mean that’s like trying to compare the Capital storming to Pearl Harbor. Not even same ballpark.

I will agree that there is almost certainly information warfare going on but there are more than just one party or person at the table. And so far people have lost businesses to riots and losing money because of COVID so I don’t see that as an organized Government deep state. I could get woke and try to figure out which group is doing what, but I’ll just wait until the real oppression sets in