National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (please review page 1)

I think @BloodStripe is thinking about this in the same way I am:

BLM is both a Group(which is Marxist in origin) and a larger movement/ideal at this point.

Not everyone involved in the BLM protests/movement is a Marxist, but it's probably a safe bet to say most all Marxists are involved in BLM.
 
Cookie_ said:
BLM is both a Group(which is Marxist in origin) and a larger movement/ideal at this point.

Not everyone involved in the BLM protests/movement is a Marxist, but it's probably a safe bet to say most all Marxists are involved in BLM.
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I don't think it's safe to say that in any way. There is a ton of inner fighting among the far left. Once the Marxists win, they will eat everyone that doesn't believe what they believe. Go through some of the articles from the socialist site that I posted. You will see a lot of support from socialist movements. Just look at the bus drivers that refused to support law enforcement in moving arrested rioters.

At some point I think I can look at all the people that are supporting something, and say these people that are so far against my ideology that maybe if they are supporting this, than I should question my support. You think I believe black lives matter, sure, but not enough for me to wash their feet and kiss their boots. It's complete fascism
 
Florida173 said:
I don't know what your attachment is because it doesn't work. I provided proof of why BLM is a Marxist movement. If you can't provide anything on why it's not and circle back to "but police brutality," i don't know what to tell you. I even quoted that it's not 25% but 50% and suggested it's socioeconomic. Gave a link to my source, Harvard. You haven't yet articulated an argument against.
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BLM is about brutality against them, which is all my argument has ever been about. Screenshot_20200630-134326_Chrome.jpg
 
BloodStripe said:
BLM is about brutality against them, which is all my argument has ever been about. View attachment 34672
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Other than the fact that the Black Lives Matter Foundation isn't the BLM movement, I typically wouldn't go to an About page on the group in question to see if it tells me that they're Marxist or not.
 
I'm guessing, you, @Florida173, like I am, are not a minority. We didnt have to live through Mike Bloomberg's stop and frisk. We don't have to wake up wondering if our house will be the target of white supremacists.

Do I agree with everything that BLM is doing? Of course not. For instance they need to look into their own communities and wonder when they will stop killing each other.
 
I'm done beating a dead horse. Some of you are so blinded by whatever is driving you, whether that be deep state conspiracies or Marxist rioters, that you are not seeing the issues that drove this to where it is. We as a country are not that far removed from the Civil War. In fact, the last person receiving a pension just died earlier this year.
 
I would be interested to learn how they (blm) define "white supremacy." Is it something along the lines of:

1) "the belief that white people are superior to those of all other races and should therefore dominate society."

Or

2) "any system, practice, expectation, or norm which has the effect of privileging whites over others independent of beliefs about superiority or inferiority."

The distinction matters if one is to have a productive debate on the subject.
 
@BloodStripe you are doing exactly what they want the public to do. You are assuming that the BLM organization is the same as the BLM movement. Totally different animals.

The BLM organization and leadership has openly admitted to being Marxist. They need to be watched carefully. The cofounder admitted to being a trained Marxist. Many of their demands have hallmarks of Marxism.

The BLM Movement is something totally different and is something that should be supported.

Black Lives Matter co-founder describes herself as ‘trained Marxist’
 
RackMaster said:
@BloodStripe you are doing exactly what they want the public to do. You are assuming that the BLM organization is the same as the BLM movement. Totally different animals.

The BLM organization and leadership has openly admitted to being Marxist. They need to be watched carefully. The cofounder admitted to being a trained Marxist. Many of their demands have hallmarks of Marxism.

The BLM Movement is something totally different and is something that should be supported.

Black Lives Matter co-founder describes herself as ‘trained Marxist’
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The video has already been linked on this site multiple times. I did just a few posts up trying to argue that it's Marxist. None of it seems to matter because police brutality.
 
RackMaster said:
@BloodStripe you are doing exactly what they want the public to do. You are assuming that the BLM organization is the same as the BLM movement. Totally different animals.

The BLM organization and leadership has openly admitted to being Marxist. They need to be watched carefully. The cofounder admitted to being a trained Marxist. Many of their demands have hallmarks of Marxism.

The BLM Movement is something totally different and is something that should be supported.

Black Lives Matter co-founder describes herself as ‘trained Marxist’
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I'm merely offering a different perspective since about 95% of the active members on here all agree with you're saying. I've given you what I consider BLM movement. It's the exact definition I posted. Those causing destruction to property are not BLM.

Someone who I joke with by calling her my work Mom is black. A few years ago her house was spray painted with the words Die (insert derogative term here that starts with the letter N).

I suggest some of you call up your darker green friends and have a meaningful conversation with them on their thoughts.
 
BloodStripe said:
I'm merely offering a different perspective since about 95% of the active members on here all agree with you're saying. I've given you what I consider BLM movement. It's the exact definition I posted. Those causing destruction to property are not BLM.

Someone who I joke with by calling her my work Mom is black. A few years ago her house was spray painted with the words Die (insert derogative term here that starts with the letter N).

I suggest some of you call up your darker green friends and have a meaningful conversation with them on their thoughts.
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When only 1/345 hate crimes end up not being a hoax, it kind of desensitizes a lot of us to caring; especially when you see black on white crime not being considered. Recent Flint Macy's comes to mind

Who are my darker green friends?


Edit: misquoted.. fewer than 1 in 3 of 346 were genuine between 2010 and 2017.
Hate Crime Hoaxes Are More Common Than You Think | Manhattan Institute
 
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BloodStripe said:
I'm merely offering a different perspective since about 95% of the active members on here all agree with you're saying. I've given you what I consider BLM movement. It's the exact definition I posted. Those causing destruction to property are not BLM.

Someone who I joke with by calling her my work Mom is black. A few years ago her house was spray painted with the words Die (insert derogative term here that starts with the letter N).

I suggest some of you call up your darker green friends and have a meaningful conversation with them on their thoughts.
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You are trying to have a separate conversation than anyone else. It is entirely possible for all of the above to be correct and happening at the same time.

Mod hat on! This discussion has been dragged on and on, with no results. So we're finished.
 

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