National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (please review page 1)

I say we put on a social experiment and have all law enforcement officers take a week off. But also broadcast which week it is so everybody understands the timeline.
 
R.Caerbannog said:
Prior to this debacle, how common in your eyes we're racially motivated crimes compared to now? I've been looking at the FBI's UCR's but the navigation is a mess and the most recent data isn't going to be up for a while.
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The homicide rate in Indy was already skyrocketing this year and most of the murders were in the usual areas. The stuff going on downtown has been after midnight, in areas where people tend to hangout around the time bars close. I can’t really speak to race related aspects as I don’t have actual numbers. That may change after the next big meeting with impd.

As of a few weeks ago, crime in general was down here. Not sure if that’s still the case.
 
RustyShackleford said:
The homicide rate in Indy was already skyrocketing this year and most of the murders were in the usual areas. The stuff going on downtown has been after midnight, in areas where people tend to hangout around the time bars close. I can’t really speak to race related aspects as I don’t have actual numbers. That may change after the next big meeting with impd.

As of a few weeks ago, crime in general was down here. Not sure if that’s still the case.
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Wonder how the numbers are going to look. I would've assumed the Kung Flu lock down might've kept people indoors and outta trouble.

amlove21 said:
I was in Olympia this weekend. Downtown, walking around, having lunch. I was there for like- 6 hours? I literally saw zero unrest, protests, soy boys...

Being in Seattle/Olympia during both the COVID and race riots (sort of ground zero for both) has really shown me exactly what all news organizations are. Not trustworthy.
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Agree with news organizations being untrustworthy, but ain't Olympia one of the nicer areas along the WA Coast? Thought the unrest we're seeing is in Seattle's and Portland's governmental districts, especially at night.

Have the Feds there done a good job of quieting things down? Cause I've heard they got better ROE's than the Portland Police Department guys, due to them (the Feds) not being hamstrung by WA's political quislings.
 
Looks like SOP for agitators is having the National Lawyers Guild number sharpied onto their arm or body and giving them a call when they get booked.

Agitator mentions it in the last 30 seconds.
ANTIFA Tough Guy Spills The Beans On Who Is Backing And Bailing Them Out Of Jail

In this other video the woman and man yell "MLG will get you out", after a masked man gets nabbed.

The Chinese are even spreading misinformation and making it seem like we're doing what they're doing. Chicoms even added dramatic music to the clip.
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R.Caerbannog said:
Wonder how the numbers are going to look. I would've assumed the Kung Flu lock down might've kept people indoors and outta trouble.
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Indy is way ahead on homicides this year. Last I heard they were at 118, compared to 80ish last year. During the lockdown it was business as usual in the hood. The PD limited response and contact made it appear as though overall crime was down but the dead bodies don’t lie.
 
R.Caerbannog said:
The Chinese are even spreading misinformation and making it seem like we're doing what they're doing. Chicoms even added dramatic music to the clip.
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Seems to be de rigueur for totalitarian or authoritarian regimes to capitalize off of isolated incidents and engage in weapons grade whataboutism. If I recall, the Soviets did the same thing in the late 1960s.
 
So I guess the shitshow in Portlandia is getting stupid. Federal agents have had to deploy and protect Federal Buildings, etc. Most of the media reports I'm seeing on this are trying to paint the government as aggressors in this. Rather than putting blame on the Mayor and the Governor.

Also, the outragey bullshit on twitter: OMG WHY ARE THEY IN CAMOUFLAGE!?!

(Well folks, it's because it's comfy)

Portland protests end Friday downtown in tandem force by federal, local police

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/07/17/portland-protests-federal-arrests/

Oregon will sue federal police agencies, open criminal investigation into use of force
 
RustyShackleford said:
Indy is way ahead on homicides this year. Last I heard they were at 118, compared to 80ish last year. During the lockdown it was business as usual in the hood. The PD limited response and contact made it appear as though overall crime was down but the dead bodies don’t lie.
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Damn, I'm sorry dude. That must suck.

Based on the data, is there a way to correlate the murder rate in conjunction to the floyd event? I get business as usual being the norm in the hood, but I'm wondering how much the murder rate increased before, during, and after said event.
 
R.Caerbannog said:
Damn, I'm sorry dude. That must suck.

Based on the data, is there a way to correlate the murder rate in conjunction to the floyd event? I get business as usual being the norm in the hood, but I'm wondering how much the murder rate increased before, during, and after said event.
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I’d have to look at the numbers post Floyd but I don’t think there was a spike after that shit show.

As for Portland and fed agents, well that city gets what it deserves. I won’t comment on who is there and why they’re there. It is fairly easy to figure out if you’ve watched some of the coverage.
 
RustyShackleford said:
I’d have to look at the numbers post Floyd but I don’t think there was a spike after that shit show.

As for Portland and fed agents, well that city gets what it deserves. I won’t comment on who is there and why they’re there. It is fairly easy to figure out if you’ve watched some of the coverage.
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Are they deployed under a federal law or laws ?
I don't know.
 
RustyShackleford said:
I’d have to look at the numbers post Floyd but I don’t think there was a spike after that shit show.

As for Portland and fed agents, well that city gets what it deserves. I won’t comment on who is there and why they’re there. It is fairly easy to figure out if you’ve watched some of the coverage.
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Sigh... yeah, it's been pretty demoralizing seeing how far to the wayside those cities and the leadership have strayed. :(

Surprised that some of the other more 'notorious' coastal cities haven't been pooping off.
 
Marine0311 said:
Are they deployed under a federal law or laws ?
I don't know.
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Oregon's DOJ filed suit today in Federal Court asking for an injunction for it to stop. Basically their complaint goes against DHS as a whole, as well as specifically Customs and Border Protection, U.S. Marshals, and Federal Protective Services. Protection of federal property would likely be the most plausible reason. Allegedly some of it would be due to the Executive Order protecting statues as well. Until we have a clearer picture I'm not entirely sure.
 
The feds are here because the rioters thrashed federal property, and continue to do so.

I am happy they are here, because it takes the catch and release local law "enforcement" (not talking about PPB, they're neutered due to the elected officials) out of the equation.

It'll also bring to nice light how much of this fuckery is happening due to non-local influences.
 
DHS is an umbrella of federal agencies...I have no issues with them protecting federal property...no insignia due to the multiple agencies, same when there was an no insignia group protecting the white house. Tell Portland to man up....if you can't protect property, don't complain when govt agencies try and protect their own property.
 

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